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From: Tom N on 19 Jan 2008 16:02
I tried to build nvi from the source code and failed, and
then contacted Kurt Wall at http://www.kurtwerks.org/ who
has provided this package for Slackware in the past, and
he was good enough to build it for 12.0:

http://kurtwerks.org/slackwerks/nvi-1.81.6-i486-1krw.tgz

Works just great. It's like elvis but without all the
bells and whistles that don't do anything but confuse
me. I just want a decent editor.

The size really surprised me. 32K for vi and 32K for ex.
Elvis is 432K.

Thanks again, Kurt!

Tom

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From: Ivar Rosquist on 19 Jan 2008 17:39
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:02:44 +0100, Tom N wrote:

> I tried to build nvi from the source code and failed, and then contacted
> Kurt Wall at http://www.kurtwerks.org/ who has provided this package for
> Slackware in the past, and he was good enough to build it for 12.0:
>
> http://kurtwerks.org/slackwerks/nvi-1.81.6-i486-1krw.tgz
>
> Works just great. It's like elvis but without all the bells and whistles
> that don't do anything but confuse me. I just want a decent editor.

You can say that again - not to speak of that monster, white
elephant that is vim.



From: Tom N on 19 Jan 2008 18:03
On 2008-01-19, Ivar Rosquist <IRosquist(a)irq.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:02:44 +0100, Tom N wrote:
>
>> I tried to build nvi from the source code and failed, and then contacted
>> Kurt Wall at http://www.kurtwerks.org/ who has provided this package for
>> Slackware in the past, and he was good enough to build it for 12.0:
>>
>> http://kurtwerks.org/slackwerks/nvi-1.81.6-i486-1krw.tgz
>>
>> Works just great. It's like elvis but without all the bells and whistles
>> that don't do anything but confuse me. I just want a decent editor.
>
> You can say that again - not to speak of that monster, white
> elephant that is vim.

:-)

The only thing I can think of worse than vim is emacs. Though I've
never tried either. Just a glance at the contents of the packages
and the docs is enough to give me a headache!

At least I can edit an HTML file with nvi without it going into
some weird mode where nothing works normally anymore, which is
what happens with elvis.

That's one character who should just stay dead!

:-\

Thanks, Ivar,

Tom

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From: Ivar Rosquist on 19 Jan 2008 18:57
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:03:58 +0100, Tom N wrote:

> On 2008-01-19, Ivar Rosquist <IRosquist(a)irq.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:02:44 +0100, Tom N wrote:
>>
>>> I tried to build nvi from the source code and failed, and then
>>> contacted Kurt Wall at http://www.kurtwerks.org/ who has provided this
>>> package for Slackware in the past, and he was good enough to build it
>>> for 12.0:
>>>
>>> http://kurtwerks.org/slackwerks/nvi-1.81.6-i486-1krw.tgz
>>>
>>> Works just great. It's like elvis but without all the bells and
>>> whistles that don't do anything but confuse me. I just want a decent
>>> editor.
>>
>> You can say that again - not to speak of that monster, white
>> elephant that is vim.
>
> :-)
>
> The only thing I can think of worse than vim is emacs. Though I've never
> tried either. Just a glance at the contents of the packages and the docs
> is enough to give me a headache!

Well, I don't dislike emacs myself. I use it every so often,
although I don't agree with its do-it-all philosophy. For most of my
requirements, however, vi is good enough.

The problem with vim is that, an emacs wannabe as it is, it
collects the worst of both vi and emacs under the same roof. If I have
ever seen a piece of software that fills out a well-needed gap, it is vim.

> At least I can edit an HTML file with nvi without it going into some
> weird mode where nothing works normally anymore, which is what happens
> with elvis.
>
> That's one character who should just stay dead!

Agreed.

> :-\
>
> Thanks, Ivar,

Any time.

From: alex on 19 Jan 2008 18:59
Tom N wrote:
> I tried to build nvi from the source code and failed

Thats because you are a noob.
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