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From: Gary Brown on 23 Apr 2008 13:38 Hi, I need to read and erase a some Ext3 formatted hard drives from an external enclosure. There are a number of Ext3 drivers for windows on the net but none explicitly say they will work for an external drive. Does it matter to a driver that the drive is external rather than internal? The driver needs to read some backups from the drives and erase (does Ext3 have an alternative to reformatting?) some personal files before sending the unit back to the manufacturer. Thanks, Gary
From: philo on 23 Apr 2008 14:34 "Gary Brown" <garyjbrown(a)charter.net> wrote in message news:duKPj.50$Qz.32(a)newsfe05.lga... > Hi, > > I need to read and erase a some Ext3 formatted hard drives > from an external enclosure. There are a number of Ext3 > drivers for windows on the net but none explicitly say they > will work for an external drive. Does it matter to a driver that > the drive is external rather than internal? > > The driver needs to read some backups from the drives > and erase (does Ext3 have an alternative to reformatting?) > some personal files before sending the unit back to the > manufacturer. > > Thanks, > Gary > > The utilites avail should be able to read the data and copy it to your windows partition after you've copied your data over use disk management from windows and delete the drive and format it NTFS or use a zero write utility from within windows
From: Paul on 23 Apr 2008 14:43 Gary Brown wrote: > Hi, > > I need to read and erase a some Ext3 formatted hard drives > from an external enclosure. There are a number of Ext3 > drivers for windows on the net but none explicitly say they > will work for an external drive. Does it matter to a driver that > the drive is external rather than internal? > > The driver needs to read some backups from the drives > and erase (does Ext3 have an alternative to reformatting?) > some personal files before sending the unit back to the > manufacturer. > > Thanks, > Gary They mention USB Mass Storage devices here. http://www.fs-driver.org/relnotes.html http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3 In terms of erasing a disk before returning it to the manufacturer, there are a couple options. DBAN is a program while will erase *all* hard drives connected to the computer. (Therefore, only the target disk should be connected before booting DBAN. And yes, there are people who have left valuable disks connected, and then used DBAN. Which is why I mention it.) http://dban.sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=208932 An alternative, is a program that accesses an erasure flag inside modern drives. Once the flag is set, the drive erases itself, and will continue erasing until the job is done. Then the erase flag is cleared. Such a feature, allows a user in a matter of seconds, to set the erasure flag, and give the drive to another user. They won't be able to do anything with the drive, until the internal erasure algorithm inside the drive is finished (runs whenever drive is powered). Then, the drive will return to normal, and accept normal commands. http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=129 For SecureErase, I'd leave the drive powered for a couple hours, after the flag is set, and let the internal erasure operation run to completion. And then send it back to the manufacturer. The internal erasure feature is supposed to be supported on modern EIDE/SATA drives, but not apparently on SCSI drives. HTH, Paul
From: Gary Brown on 23 Apr 2008 19:19 >> I need to read and erase a some Ext3 formatted hard drives >> from an external enclosure. There are a number of Ext3 > > They mention USB Mass Storage devices here. > > http://www.fs-driver.org/relnotes.html > > http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3 > This wouldn't read because of journalling active on the disk. Required Unix, which I don't have. Is there an ultra simple Unix that will handle ext3 files that can be booted from a CD or DVD? Gary
From: Paul on 23 Apr 2008 19:48
Gary Brown wrote: >>> I need to read and erase a some Ext3 formatted hard drives >>> from an external enclosure. There are a number of Ext3 >> They mention USB Mass Storage devices here. >> >> http://www.fs-driver.org/relnotes.html >> >> http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3 >> > > This wouldn't read because of journalling active on the disk. > Required Unix, which I don't have. > > Is there an ultra simple Unix that will handle ext3 files that > can be booted from a CD or DVD? > > Gary > > This one is listed as supporting EXT3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn_Small_Linux It might be smaller than the Knoppix and Ubuntu CDs I have here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions About 50MB. http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ Paul |