From: Darnko on
I had recently added a D-Link Wireless Router and almost everything is
working on this Network except Two Computers that are wired on a D-Link 604
used as a switch in that I did not plug my connection from the Linksys to the
WAN port.
I have two Computers after the modem getting internet and Networked from
Linksys Router, then a line to 524 Router from Linksys Router connected not
in WAN
but in a port. I have Lines from that router(524) going to other Comps.
This worked fine as a network until I added Wireless (604).I used Computer(3)
line out of Router (524)to plug into WAN on Wireless(604) and then Plug
Computer(3) into port on Wireless Router.Only wireless is my Laptop right
now. It can see a connect to all Computers. Computer(1) will not connect with
Computer(3). Computer(1) has connection to Wireless Laptop in the Network.
Computer(1) and (3) I cannot get to connect to each other on this network.
Computer (1) comes out of the Linksys Router
Line from Linksys Router to Port on D-Link Router (Nothing in WAN)
Wireless gets on by Computer (3) into Wireless Routers WAN port and then a
line from port on wireless Router to Computer (3).
Everything gets internet
Computer (1) and (3) I cannot get to connect on this network.



Onward Through The Fog,
Darnko

From: Jack (MVP) on
Hi
May be this can Help.
http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Darnko" <Darnko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7B17D785-A452-413F-88AA-35A240D68613(a)microsoft.com...
> I had recently added a D-Link Wireless Router and almost everything is
> working on this Network except Two Computers that are wired on a D-Link 604
> used as a switch in that I did not plug my connection from the Linksys to the
> WAN port.
> I have two Computers after the modem getting internet and Networked from
> Linksys Router, then a line to 524 Router from Linksys Router connected not
> in WAN
> but in a port. I have Lines from that router(524) going to other Comps.
> This worked fine as a network until I added Wireless (604).I used Computer(3)
> line out of Router (524)to plug into WAN on Wireless(604) and then Plug
> Computer(3) into port on Wireless Router.Only wireless is my Laptop right
> now. It can see a connect to all Computers. Computer(1) will not connect with
> Computer(3). Computer(1) has connection to Wireless Laptop in the Network.
> Computer(1) and (3) I cannot get to connect to each other on this network.
> Computer (1) comes out of the Linksys Router
> Line from Linksys Router to Port on D-Link Router (Nothing in WAN)
> Wireless gets on by Computer (3) into Wireless Routers WAN port and then a
> line from port on wireless Router to Computer (3).
> Everything gets internet
> Computer (1) and (3) I cannot get to connect on this network.
>
>
>
> Onward Through The Fog,
> Darnko
>


From: N. Miller on
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:50:11 -0700, Darnko wrote:

> I had recently added a D-Link Wireless Router and almost everything is
> working on this Network except Two Computers that are wired on a D-Link 604
> used as a switch in that I did not plug my connection from the Linksys to the
> WAN port.
> I have two Computers after the modem getting internet and Networked from
> Linksys Router, then a line to 524 Router from Linksys Router connected not
> in WAN
> but in a port. I have Lines from that router(524) going to other Comps.
> This worked fine as a network until I added Wireless (604).I used Computer(3)
> line out of Router (524)to plug into WAN on Wireless(604) and then Plug
> Computer(3) into port on Wireless Router.Only wireless is my Laptop right
> now. It can see a connect to all Computers. Computer(1) will not connect with
> Computer(3). Computer(1) has connection to Wireless Laptop in the Network.
> Computer(1) and (3) I cannot get to connect to each other on this network.
> Computer (1) comes out of the Linksys Router
> Line from Linksys Router to Port on D-Link Router (Nothing in WAN)
> Wireless gets on by Computer (3) into Wireless Routers WAN port and then a
> line from port on wireless Router to Computer (3).
> Everything gets internet
> Computer (1) and (3) I cannot get to connect on this network.
>
>
>
> Onward Through The Fog,
> Darnko

DI-604 is not wirleless. DI-524 is wireless. Or so I gather from:

http://www.dlink.com/

....and expanding the drop-down menu on the left to see the product list.

Is there a particular reason for using the WAN port of whichever D-Link you
are so configuring? Is there a particular reason to have so many routers?
Simplest would have been either a D-Link DWL-2100A, or the like, or a
Linksys WAP54G, or the like. I set up a friend with a D-Link DWL-2100A
connected to a D-Link DI-704UP. He tried a Linksys WAP54G at first, but I
couldn't get that to work. Exchanged the Linksys WAP for the D-Link WAP,
and it all works, easy enough. BTW, I also had trouble, out of the box,
with a new Linksys BEFSR11, so I am pretty sour on Linksys products.

Anyway, your system may be needlessly complex for what you are trying to
do. If your intent is to have all computers seeing each other, you should
not be using a router to separate the network by plugging into a WAN port.
Frankly, if the Linksys router is a four-port model, I would connect the
wired computers to the first three ports, and the wireless router to port
four; using a LAN port on the wireless router and whichever end of that
link (Linksys, or D-Link) which can act as an uplink; or let the ports
negotiate an auto-sense link, if they are capable.

If you have more than three wired computers, the additional computers on
the remaining wired ports of the wireless router. Disable DHCP on the
wireless router, and manually assign an IP address on its LAN side. This
converts the wireless router into a combined wireless access point and
switch. All networked devices will get their IP addresses by DHCP from the
Linksys router.

If I have misunderstood your intent, please explain what you want in
detail. Just whether you want all computers to have full access to each
other, or some computers to be isolated from the others. If the latter,
which network should have the wireless laptop.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
From: Yves Leclerc on
The problem you seem to have is that with more than one router, each having
its own DHCP service, which one will control the Internet access. You need
to turn one DHCP service off (usually the wired one) and move the Internet
access modem to the wireless one.


"Darnko" <Darnko(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7B17D785-A452-413F-88AA-35A240D68613(a)microsoft.com...
>I had recently added a D-Link Wireless Router and almost everything is
> working on this Network except Two Computers that are wired on a D-Link
> 604
> used as a switch in that I did not plug my connection from the Linksys to
> the
> WAN port.
> I have two Computers after the modem getting internet and Networked from
> Linksys Router, then a line to 524 Router from Linksys Router connected
> not
> in WAN
> but in a port. I have Lines from that router(524) going to other Comps.
> This worked fine as a network until I added Wireless (604).I used
> Computer(3)
> line out of Router (524)to plug into WAN on Wireless(604) and then Plug
> Computer(3) into port on Wireless Router.Only wireless is my Laptop right
> now. It can see a connect to all Computers. Computer(1) will not connect
> with
> Computer(3). Computer(1) has connection to Wireless Laptop in the Network.
> Computer(1) and (3) I cannot get to connect to each other on this network.
> Computer (1) comes out of the Linksys Router
> Line from Linksys Router to Port on D-Link Router (Nothing in WAN)
> Wireless gets on by Computer (3) into Wireless Routers WAN port and then a
> line from port on wireless Router to Computer (3).
> Everything gets internet
> Computer (1) and (3) I cannot get to connect on this network.
>
>
>
> Onward Through The Fog,
> Darnko
>


From: Darnko on
Thanks Norman you are a man of straight shooting, my writing numbers in wrong
is of no consicuence, as they can only be used for what they are? So many
routers two was fine as for the layout I had, and it has been built as I go
along, hense the Wireless Router. The ports are four without the WAN, yes,
but when I put the one line that carries connectivity over to there to 604,
already plus I have another wired, =5. The only way I was being able to get
wireless on Internet was to put one Computer through Wireless Router WAN. I
may have missed something but out of all of it only the two could not see
each other. preetty good I thought, what reason I don't know. There is
nothing wrong with designing a system how ever over complex or whatever to
add to ones learning and experience and understanding a hands on project
gives. Life can be overly complex, a small insignifigant network....Not.

Onward Through The Fog,
Darnko


"N. Miller" wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:50:11 -0700, Darnko wrote:
>
> > I had recently added a D-Link Wireless Router and almost everything is
> > working on this Network except Two Computers that are wired on a D-Link 604
> > used as a switch in that I did not plug my connection from the Linksys to the
> > WAN port.
> > I have two Computers after the modem getting internet and Networked from
> > Linksys Router, then a line to 524 Router from Linksys Router connected not
> > in WAN
> > but in a port. I have Lines from that router(524) going to other Comps.
> > This worked fine as a network until I added Wireless (604).I used Computer(3)
> > line out of Router (524)to plug into WAN on Wireless(604) and then Plug
> > Computer(3) into port on Wireless Router.Only wireless is my Laptop right
> > now. It can see a connect to all Computers. Computer(1) will not connect with
> > Computer(3). Computer(1) has connection to Wireless Laptop in the Network.
> > Computer(1) and (3) I cannot get to connect to each other on this network.
> > Computer (1) comes out of the Linksys Router
> > Line from Linksys Router to Port on D-Link Router (Nothing in WAN)
> > Wireless gets on by Computer (3) into Wireless Routers WAN port and then a
> > line from port on wireless Router to Computer (3).
> > Everything gets internet
> > Computer (1) and (3) I cannot get to connect on this network.
> >
> >
> >
> > Onward Through The Fog,
> > Darnko
>
> DI-604 is not wirleless. DI-524 is wireless. Or so I gather from:
>
> http://www.dlink.com/
>
> ....and expanding the drop-down menu on the left to see the product list.
>
> Is there a particular reason for using the WAN port of whichever D-Link you
> are so configuring? Is there a particular reason to have so many routers?
> Simplest would have been either a D-Link DWL-2100A, or the like, or a
> Linksys WAP54G, or the like. I set up a friend with a D-Link DWL-2100A
> connected to a D-Link DI-704UP. He tried a Linksys WAP54G at first, but I
> couldn't get that to work. Exchanged the Linksys WAP for the D-Link WAP,
> and it all works, easy enough. BTW, I also had trouble, out of the box,
> with a new Linksys BEFSR11, so I am pretty sour on Linksys products.
>
> Anyway, your system may be needlessly complex for what you are trying to
> do. If your intent is to have all computers seeing each other, you should
> not be using a router to separate the network by plugging into a WAN port.
> Frankly, if the Linksys router is a four-port model, I would connect the
> wired computers to the first three ports, and the wireless router to port
> four; using a LAN port on the wireless router and whichever end of that
> link (Linksys, or D-Link) which can act as an uplink; or let the ports
> negotiate an auto-sense link, if they are capable.
>
> If you have more than three wired computers, the additional computers on
> the remaining wired ports of the wireless router. Disable DHCP on the
> wireless router, and manually assign an IP address on its LAN side. This
> converts the wireless router into a combined wireless access point and
> switch. All networked devices will get their IP addresses by DHCP from the
> Linksys router.
>
> If I have misunderstood your intent, please explain what you want in
> detail. Just whether you want all computers to have full access to each
> other, or some computers to be isolated from the others. If the latter,
> which network should have the wireless laptop.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
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