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From: Madwen on 5 May 2008 01:12
In article <JLmdnZf2m9gfioPVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
Tim Lance <see.sig(a)bottom.com> wrote:

> In the case of not being able to boot from your Mac volume you boot from your
> bootable backup. Right? : )

If that is one's preference. But for me, with multiple Macs, it's far
easier and more efficient to install a universal system that will boot
all our Macs. I also keep the best iteration of the previous system in
case the new system is initially too problematic (never happened in OS
X) and in case essential software doesn't work on the new system...
until it is updated. The latter often occurs with proprietary software.
From: Woody on 5 May 2008 10:15
"Heath Raftery" <hraftery(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:BNsTj.57623$oQ4.17602(a)fe113.usenetserver.com...
> Woody <paul.woodsford(a)nospamvirgin.net> wrote:
>> Having been a PC user since Win 3 I have now taken the plunge and ordered
>> an
>> iMac 24", arriving on 9th May, so that using Bootcamp I can run XP for
>> the
>> few programs I need that I cannot find a Mac equivelant for yet. Also, I
>> want to learn the basics well before, hopefully turning away from XP.
>
> Congrats! Welcome. My 24" iMac arrived this morning. Now I have to wait
> until after work to unbox it!
>
>> 1. Do I need a virus checker gor Leopard? If so does anyone have any
>> recommendations?
>
> No. This may change in the future, but seriously, don't worry about it
> now.
>
>> 2. Can I have 2 external HDs, one for each OS, to be used for data
>> backup/storage for each OS? No cross-writing ability needed but
>> cross-reading useful. If so which formats should I use?
>
> Absolutely. HFS+ for the Mac one, NTFS for the Windows one.
>
>> 3. XP has Windows Defender from MS, anything similar for Leopard and do I
>> need it?
>
> No. There's a firewall built-in, but seriously, it's not needed.
>
>> 4. Is Time Machine similar to XP's System Restore?
>
> No. Time Machine is closer to an actual backup program in that it stores
> an independant backup. Yes it organises them by date, but they are just
> ordinary backups. The interface makes it look like you can "go back in
> time", because that's a simple and intuitive way of accessing the backup.
> What in fact is happening however, is part of a complete backup is being
> restored.
>
> System Restore is more of a system rollback function. Time Machine
> deals with your files.
>
>> 5. Can I use 1 external HD for Time Machine and holding Data for the Mac,
>> pictures etc:?
>
> Sure, but you're better off using the internal HD for your documents
> (that's where your "Home" folder will be) and then use the external HD
> for the Time Machine backup.
>
>> Hope someone can answer my queries. I'm sure there will be more in the
>> future and hopefully when I am upto speed I can return the favour to the
>> group.
>
> For sure, bring them on. I'd advise you to ask each question in a new
> thread with a specific subject though - it gets very hard to track
> otherwise.
>
> --
> *--------------------------------------------------------*
> | ^Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool^ |
> | Heath Raftery, HRSoftWorks _\|/_ |
> *______________________________________m_('.')_m_________*



Thanks everyone for the helpful information.

--
Woody
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From: Madwen on 5 May 2008 10:57
In article <pt6dnTJifY5Pe4PVnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
Tim Lance <see.sig(a)bottom.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 5 May 2008 00:12:49 -0500, Madwen wrote
> (in article <wyvern-F43CB2.00124905052008(a)sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>):
>
> > In article <JLmdnZf2m9gfioPVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
> > Tim Lance <see.sig(a)bottom.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In the case of not being able to boot from your Mac volume you boot from
> >> your
> >> bootable backup. Right? : )
> >
> > If that is one's preference. But for me, with multiple Macs, it's far
> > easier and more efficient to install a universal system that will boot
> > all our Macs. I also keep the best iteration of the previous system in
> > case the new system is initially too problematic (never happened in OS
> > X) and in case essential software doesn't work on the new system...
> > until it is updated. The latter often occurs with proprietary software.
>
> Well of course. But I don't see where the *necessity* separate Windows boot
> comes in. I guess there's instances but in my own everyday use, once
> Parallels was mature, I ditched my BC partition.

As you are aware, I said nothing about Windows.
From: salgud on 5 May 2008 11:03
On Mon, 05 May 2008 14:15:44 GMT, Woody wrote:

> "Heath Raftery" <hraftery(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:BNsTj.57623$oQ4.17602(a)fe113.usenetserver.com...
>> Woody <paul.woodsford(a)nospamvirgin.net> wrote:
>>> Having been a PC user since Win 3 I have now taken the plunge and ordered
>>> an
>>> iMac 24", arriving on 9th May, so that using Bootcamp I can run XP for
>>> the
>>> few programs I need that I cannot find a Mac equivelant for yet. Also, I
>>> want to learn the basics well before, hopefully turning away from XP.
>>
>> Congrats! Welcome. My 24" iMac arrived this morning. Now I have to wait
>> until after work to unbox it!
>>
>>> 1. Do I need a virus checker gor Leopard? If so does anyone have any
>>> recommendations?
>>
>> No. This may change in the future, but seriously, don't worry about it
>> now.
>>
>>> 2. Can I have 2 external HDs, one for each OS, to be used for data
>>> backup/storage for each OS? No cross-writing ability needed but
>>> cross-reading useful. If so which formats should I use?
>>
>> Absolutely. HFS+ for the Mac one, NTFS for the Windows one.
>>
>>> 3. XP has Windows Defender from MS, anything similar for Leopard and do I
>>> need it?
>>
>> No. There's a firewall built-in, but seriously, it's not needed.
>>
>>> 4. Is Time Machine similar to XP's System Restore?
>>
>> No. Time Machine is closer to an actual backup program in that it stores
>> an independant backup. Yes it organises them by date, but they are just
>> ordinary backups. The interface makes it look like you can "go back in
>> time", because that's a simple and intuitive way of accessing the backup.
>> What in fact is happening however, is part of a complete backup is being
>> restored.
>>
>> System Restore is more of a system rollback function. Time Machine
>> deals with your files.
>>
>>> 5. Can I use 1 external HD for Time Machine and holding Data for the Mac,
>>> pictures etc:?
>>
>> Sure, but you're better off using the internal HD for your documents
>> (that's where your "Home" folder will be) and then use the external HD
>> for the Time Machine backup.
>>
>>> Hope someone can answer my queries. I'm sure there will be more in the
>>> future and hopefully when I am upto speed I can return the favour to the
>>> group.
>>
>> For sure, bring them on. I'd advise you to ask each question in a new
>> thread with a specific subject though - it gets very hard to track
>> otherwise.
>>
>> --
>> *--------------------------------------------------------*
>>| ^Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool^ |
>>| Heath Raftery, HRSoftWorks _\|/_ |
>> *______________________________________m_('.')_m_________*
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for the helpful information.

Thanks, Woody, for asking some questions I would have asked when I get my
iMac next month. And thanks to everyone who replied. Very helpful.
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