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From: John B Smith on 10 Jul 2008 10:46 When I graduated to XPpro, circa 2002?, I found that my flatbed scanner wouldn't work. My solution was to make a small Win98 partition on my 2nd hard drive and select to boot from that one when I wanted to use my scanner. Sometimes if got cranky and some guru advised me to changed the <vcache> section of system.ini to MaxFile Cache = 512000 I forget what the value originally was. The fix worked like a charm on my MSI mb with a P4 cpu. New machine is an Abit IP35 Pro XE with an E8400 cpu. I hoped to do the same Win98 deal. I imaged the Win98 partition onto the boot partion of the 2nd hard drive. When booted it stopped, complained about "insufficient memory to initialize Windows" (machine has 4gig RAM) While I was copying down the verbage of the message the pc shutdown. I guess memory or cpu was hanging in a loop and getting too hot? I tried increasing that MaxFile Cache value again, but no help. I think DOS may only be able to handle 512000 anyway, and DOS is still in control of boot at that point (maybe). Anyway... anyone have any experience with trying to use Win98 on a hot new pc? I'm also a little suspicious of my use of a disk image, rather than trying to install Win98 all over again on the new partition, which is kind of a pain.
From: spodosaurus on 10 Jul 2008 11:19 John B Smith wrote: > When I graduated to XPpro, circa 2002?, I found that my flatbed > scanner wouldn't work. My solution was to make a small Win98 partition > on my 2nd hard drive and select to boot from that one when I wanted to > use my scanner. Sometimes if got cranky and some guru advised me to > changed the <vcache> section of system.ini to > MaxFile Cache = 512000 > I forget what the value originally was. The fix worked like a charm on > my MSI mb with a P4 cpu. > New machine is an Abit IP35 Pro XE with an E8400 cpu. I hoped to do > the same Win98 deal. I imaged the Win98 partition onto the boot > partion of the 2nd hard drive. When booted it stopped, complained > about "insufficient memory to initialize Windows" (machine has 4gig > RAM) While I was copying down the verbage of the message the pc > shutdown. I guess memory or cpu was hanging in a loop and getting too > hot? I tried increasing that MaxFile Cache value again, but no help. I > think DOS may only be able to handle 512000 anyway, and DOS is still > in control of boot at that point (maybe). Anyway... anyone have any > experience with trying to use Win98 on a hot new pc? I'm also a little > suspicious of my use of a disk image, rather than trying to install > Win98 all over again on the new partition, which is kind of a pain. You should be suspicious: it's trying to boot with the drivers for the previous motherboard's chipset. You can try doing a reinstall over the image to retain your data, but you'll still have to reinstall some software. -- spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/
From: Baldur Eyvindur on 10 Jul 2008 13:20 On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:46:40 -0400, John B Smith wrote > <snip> changed the <vcache> section of system.ini to > MaxFile Cache = 512000 > I forget what the value originally was. "Out of memory" error messages with large amounts of RAM installed <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253912>. -- Baldur Eyvindur
From: RobV on 10 Jul 2008 13:28 John B Smith wrote: > When I graduated to XPpro, circa 2002?, I found that my flatbed > scanner wouldn't work. My solution was to make a small Win98 partition > on my 2nd hard drive and select to boot from that one when I wanted to > use my scanner. Sometimes if got cranky and some guru advised me to > changed the <vcache> section of system.ini to > MaxFile Cache = 512000 > I forget what the value originally was. The fix worked like a charm on > my MSI mb with a P4 cpu. > New machine is an Abit IP35 Pro XE with an E8400 cpu. I hoped to do > the same Win98 deal. I imaged the Win98 partition onto the boot > partion of the 2nd hard drive. When booted it stopped, complained > about "insufficient memory to initialize Windows" (machine has 4gig > RAM) While I was copying down the verbage of the message the pc > shutdown. I guess memory or cpu was hanging in a loop and getting too > hot? I tried increasing that MaxFile Cache value again, but no help. I > think DOS may only be able to handle 512000 anyway, and DOS is still > in control of boot at that point (maybe). Anyway... anyone have any > experience with trying to use Win98 on a hot new pc? I'm also a little > suspicious of my use of a disk image, rather than trying to install > Win98 all over again on the new partition, which is kind of a pain. In addition to what was mentioned by spodosaurus, Win98 can only handle 512 MB memory. Anything more and it can cause all sorts of strange problems, especially with 4 GB. This Microsoft document has all the details, along with a possible workaround: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q253/9/12.ASP&NoWebContent=1 http://tinyurl.com/97yo
From: Jan Alter on 10 Jul 2008 13:32
"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message news:48762875$0$7190$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > John B Smith wrote: >> When I graduated to XPpro, circa 2002?, I found that my flatbed >> scanner wouldn't work. My solution was to make a small Win98 partition >> on my 2nd hard drive and select to boot from that one when I wanted to >> use my scanner. Sometimes if got cranky and some guru advised me to >> changed the <vcache> section of system.ini to >> MaxFile Cache = 512000 >> I forget what the value originally was. The fix worked like a charm on >> my MSI mb with a P4 cpu. >> New machine is an Abit IP35 Pro XE with an E8400 cpu. I hoped to do >> the same Win98 deal. I imaged the Win98 partition onto the boot >> partion of the 2nd hard drive. When booted it stopped, complained >> about "insufficient memory to initialize Windows" (machine has 4gig >> RAM) While I was copying down the verbage of the message the pc >> shutdown. I guess memory or cpu was hanging in a loop and getting too >> hot? I tried increasing that MaxFile Cache value again, but no help. I >> think DOS may only be able to handle 512000 anyway, and DOS is still >> in control of boot at that point (maybe). Anyway... anyone have any >> experience with trying to use Win98 on a hot new pc? I'm also a little >> suspicious of my use of a disk image, rather than trying to install >> Win98 all over again on the new partition, which is kind of a pain. > > You should be suspicious: it's trying to boot with the drivers for the > previous motherboard's chipset. You can try doing a reinstall over the > image to retain your data, but you'll still have to reinstall some > software. > > -- > spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply > Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please > volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life: > http://www.abmdr.org.au/ > http://www.marrow.org/ I went to Abit looking for the manual for your mb but it doesn't appear to be available. Have you looked in the manual itself to see if Win98 is supported with the mb? I've been reading for awhile at this point of many new mbs not supporting '98 or below. -- Jan Alter bearpuf(a)verizon.net |