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From: Miles Bader on 18 Apr 2008 23:06
Ed <Yenc(a)power-post.org> writes:
> Intel hasn't made a decent integrated graphics chip to date

Eh? My work pc has some kind of old intel integrated graphics (i845?)
and it's just fine, does a very decent job of running opengl apps etc.
Newer chips are supposedly much faster (and the upcoming generation even
better of course). Intel knows their market.

I suppose gamers want something much studlier, but what intel makes is
fine for normal use.

Intel's also made a lot of friends because of their very open attitude
-- while nvidia is _still_ pulling the "no you can't have the specs that
allow you to support our hardware" bullshit. [They'll come around
eventually, but in the meantime it sure as hell isn't making them look
any better.]

In any case, the Nvidia guy's rant seemed pretty pathetic... If he wants
to project confidence, that was exactly the way _not_ to do it.

-Miles

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From: Shawn on 19 Apr 2008 19:03

"Ed" <Yenc(a)power-post.org> wrote in message news:tick045c9n06n8kkb5c3ebd1923m9e6cht(a)4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:06:39 +0900, Miles Bader <miles(a)gnu.org> wrote:
>
>>Ed <Yenc(a)power-post.org> writes:
>>> Intel hasn't made a decent integrated graphics chip to date
>>
>>Eh? My work pc has some kind of old intel integrated graphics (i845?)
>
> Some of our work PCs have Intel graphics, they pretty much suck IMO.
>

Onboard video GPUs almost always suck at high end games. Good for the office
but bad for the battlefield.


From: chrisv on 21 Apr 2008 09:05
Ed wrote:

>Intel integrated GPUs aren't even good for most 2D office apps,

How do you figure that? Seems to work fine for me.

From: Ed Medlin on 21 Apr 2008 10:56

"chrisv" <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:v64p04d4vufu0v84h70hj0uvls37krl3rp(a)4ax.com...
> Ed wrote:
>
>>Intel integrated GPUs aren't even good for most 2D office apps,
>
> How do you figure that? Seems to work fine for me.
>
They do work fine for what they are designed to do, basic 2d and 3d
rendering. The more complex the video needs, the worse the performance.
Nvidia will be around a long time in their market. These are two completely
different markets.


Ed


From: Mike Smith on 21 Apr 2008 19:33
Ed wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:03:17 -0500, "Shawn" <diskette(a)floppy.drv> wrote:
>
>> Onboard video GPUs almost always suck at high end games. Good for the office
>> but bad for the battlefield.
>>
>
> Intel integrated GPUs aren't even good for most 2D office apps, forget
> 3D!

Like what? The X3100 in my machine does just fine with Autodesk
Inventor; it certainly doesn't have any trouble with Word or Excel or
Visual Studio, etc. So, um, are you just trolling, perhaps?

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