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From: Scotty Davis on 6 Apr 2008 18:00 Hi, I just built a system using an Asus PK5-VM motherboard and an E2180 cpu. I have a Thermaltake fan and heatsink and 2 case fans in the case. I'm relatively new at overclocking. What can I reasonably expect to push this thing to without better cooling? I'm not looking for anything too grand, I'd just like to game at a higher level. I'd like to get 3.0 out of it if possible. What should I set the bios settings at? FBS? Ratio? Voltage? Thanks.
From: ~misfit~ on 9 Apr 2008 00:59 Somewhere on teh intarweb "Scotty Davis" typed: > Hi, I just built a system using an Asus PK5-VM motherboard and an > E2180 cpu. I have a Thermaltake fan and heatsink and 2 case fans in > the case. I'm relatively new at overclocking. > > > What can I reasonably expect to push this thing to without better > cooling? I'm not looking for anything too grand, I'd just like to game > at a higher level. I'd like to get 3.0 out of it if possible. > > What should I set the bios settings at? > > FBS? > Ratio? > Voltage? > > Thanks. Are those settings available in the BIOS? I always believed that the -VM series of Asus motherboards were business-oriented/low-end market and had virtually no overclocking options. Cheers, -- Shaun.
From: DonC on 9 Apr 2008 13:44 "~misfit~" <misfit61nz(a)hooya.com.au> wrote in message news:47fc4d13$1(a)news2.actrix.gen.nz... > Somewhere on teh intarweb "Scotty Davis" typed: >> Hi, I just built a system using an Asus PK5-VM motherboard and an >> E2180 cpu. I have a Thermaltake fan and heatsink and 2 case fans in >> the case. I'm relatively new at overclocking. >> >> >> What can I reasonably expect to push this thing to without better >> cooling? I'm not looking for anything too grand, I'd just like to game >> at a higher level. I'd like to get 3.0 out of it if possible. >> >> What should I set the bios settings at? >> >> FBS? >> Ratio? >> Voltage? >> >> Thanks. > > Are those settings available in the BIOS? > > I always believed that the -VM series of Asus motherboards were > business-oriented/low-end market and had virtually no overclocking > options. > > Cheers, > -- > Shaun. > > I have a "-VM" series board (M2NPV-VM). It has full overclocking capabilities. CPU frequency, multiplier, voltage, or OC steps (5%-10%-etc.), FSB, memory voltage and so on. I don't see any "business-oriented/low-end market" characteristics you speak of.
From: Paul on 9 Apr 2008 16:54 DonC wrote: > > > I have a "-VM" series board (M2NPV-VM). It has full overclocking > capabilities. CPU frequency, multiplier, voltage, or OC steps > (5%-10%-etc.), FSB, memory voltage and so on. I don't see any > "business-oriented/low-end market" characteristics you speak of. > That warning is given, to encourage people to download the user manual *before* they buy a motherboard. I don't know how many times people will come looking for overclocking settings, only to discover they cannot even set the CPU input clock in the BIOS. There are motherboards, which are only suited to business systems, which is why you read the manual before buying. As for setting them up, even without the manual there is a simple recipe. (I overclocked my A7N8X-E without reading the manual, and this is how...) 1) If you see something with "AI Overclock" or "AI Tune" or the like in the BIOS, and the default is "Auto", change it to "Manual". For each setting that you put in a "Manual" mode, extra settings should appear on the BIOS screen. At takes about 30 minutes of blind checking of BIOS screens, to find all the things to set to manual, and learn how your BIOS works. 2) For instant satisfaction, change the CPU input clock by 5MHz. I.e. If the CPU input clock was 200MHz, change it to 205MHz. Go to the Exit menu and "Save and Exit" the BIOS. Reboot and use CPUZ (from cpuid.com) to verify the increase in frequency. Now you're overclocking :-) The reason for taking such a "baby step", is to ensure it doesn't crash on the first try. Part of the overclocker creed, is figuring out the best settings yourself. Even if it means reading a few postings on a forum like this one. There is a wealth of information here. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ HTH, Paul
From: ~misfit~ on 9 Apr 2008 19:30
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Paul" typed: > DonC wrote: >> >> >> I have a "-VM" series board (M2NPV-VM). It has full overclocking >> capabilities. CPU frequency, multiplier, voltage, or OC steps >> (5%-10%-etc.), FSB, memory voltage and so on. I don't see any >> "business-oriented/low-end market" characteristics you speak of. >> > > That warning is given, to encourage people to download the user > manual *before* they buy a motherboard. Yep. That coupled with the fact that the OP either has a really rare board that I can't find details on or he in fact means a P5K-VM. If he does mean a P5K-VM then it's a uATX board with what appears to be only 3 or 4 phase un-sinked PWM for the CPU. Any serious overclocker will know that uATX boards aren't the best choice for overclocking and that 3/4 phase PWMs are boderline for a fast C2D yet alone overclocking one. Yet it seems that Asus are promoting this board as being C2Q capable! <shudder> I'd hate to hold my finger on one of those bare MOSFETs when it was running a C2Q and doing some work. However, that said, it should handle OCing an E2xxx or an E1xxx. As for "DonC" (who's post I'm yet to see. Maybe he resides in my killfile?) saying he doesn't see any business oriented/low-end market characteristics (obviously other than the uATX format and the on-board graphics) then he hasn't read the manual. On page 14, where it lists package contents, it lists things and says in brackets (Retail version only) after some. This (IME) isn't common with consumer-grade mobos and usually denotes that they are able to be bought in 'packs' of 10/50/100/1000 for system builders. However, good has come of this. I see now that Asus are adding overclocking options to their previously un-overclockable budget VM range although the target customer for that range remains smaller OEMs and non-power users. If I were building a bunch of machines for a business I might not consider the Asus VM range anymore though, although they're priced accordingly (especially in bulk). Who would want the to risk the chance that office-workers would get into the BIOS and try to overclock their (possibly mission-critical) machine? A nightmare for support staff. Asus need to decide exactly where they're 'placing' their products. We used to joke that "VM" stood for "Vanilla Model", however now it sems that Asus are trying to straddle the fence with this range of boards. Never a good move, they usually end up doing nothing well. Anyway, a suggestion for the OP. Google is your friend: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1274769 -- Shaun. |