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From: Tom Newton on 1 Feb 2008 03:37 On 2008-01-31, Loki Harfagr <loki.harfagr(a)asgard.vh> wrote: > Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:53:20 -0800, Tom N did cat�: > >> On Jan 30, 11:36 am, loki harfagr <l...(a)theDarkDesign.free.fr> wrote: >>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:14:47 -0800, Tom N wrote: >>> >... >>> > On almost any Linux box in the world, you can just enter: >>> >>> > alias ff='firefox &' >>> >>> > and the deed is done. Whatever alias you want, whatever app you want. >>> >>> What's this idea to mix-up lyrics from ACDC and StatusQuo in the same >>> old b0rken song?-) >> >> I have no idea what you are talking about there. > > Curious, that wass easy though: > ACDC: "Dirty deeds done dirt cheap" - 1976 > Status Quo: "Whatever you want" - 1979 My tastes in music are different than yours. >> Except that I know bullshit when I see it. > > Highly doubtful as until then it seems you don't > even know bullshit when you write it. Many Slackers don't use KDE or Gnome (etc.) and wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. As well as many people who use other linux distros. And unix distros. Yet we do run X and window managers and can do anything that can be done with KDE, with a fraction of the system resources KDE requires. We can do MORE. Since that's all I've been saying, and it isn't bullshit at all... ODE (the Other Desktop Environment) is simply running Linux from the command line, in the console or the X environments. You ought to try it. Tom
From: Richard James on 1 Feb 2008 04:25 On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:37:54 +0000, Tom Newton wrote: > Many Slackers don't use KDE or Gnome (etc.) and wouldn't touch them with > a ten foot pole. Of course you know why people use KDE? It is because of the fluoride the government puts in the water. It is all a massive conspiracy to convert everyone to KDEism. I'm sure glad you can see this for what it is Tom. We need more people with your sort of vision. Richard James
From: Tom Newton on 1 Feb 2008 04:52 On 2008-01-31, Richard James <rjames(a)invalid.com> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:37:54 +0000, Tom Newton wrote: > >> Many Slackers don't use KDE or Gnome (etc.) and wouldn't touch them with >> a ten foot pole. > > Of course you know why people use KDE? It is because of the fluoride the > government puts in the water. It is all a massive conspiracy to convert > everyone to KDEism. I'm sure glad you can see this for what it is Tom. We > need more people with your sort of vision. Be nice if one of you would find the courage to engage me in an honest debate. But I fully understand why you don't want to do that. People use KDE for a variety of reasons. The main one being that it is a clone of the Windows user-interface, so they already know basically how to use it. And they've been told, in various ways, that running Linux from the commandline is impossibly difficult, by people who, for their own reasons, don't want the newbies to learn to use the shell. I think it is because they want the newbies to be dependent on them. You can't master linux without mastering the shell. KDE is not the complete user-interface it pretends to be. It's really nothing but a collection of applications with a common graphical interface that can be run mostly with a mouse. As if pointing-and-clicking was more sophisticated than using the keyboard. It's actually the other way around, of course. Any monkey can point at something it recognizes. Try teaching one to type... Have a banana, Richard. :-) Tom
From: Tom Newton on 1 Feb 2008 05:59 On 2008-01-31, Richard James <rjames(a)invalid.com> wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:52:13 +0000, Tom Newton wrote: > >> On 2008-01-31, Richard James <rjames(a)invalid.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:37:54 +0000, Tom Newton wrote: >>> >>>> Many Slackers don't use KDE or Gnome (etc.) and wouldn't touch them >>>> with a ten foot pole. >>> >>> Of course you know why people use KDE? It is because of the fluoride >>> the government puts in the water. It is all a massive conspiracy to >>> convert everyone to KDEism. I'm sure glad you can see this for what it >>> is Tom. We need more people with your sort of vision. >> >> Be nice if one of you would find the courage to engage me in an honest >> debate. But I fully understand why you don't want to do that. > > Ok I'll make this clear once and for all. You are a Troll. But I'm not. And you know it. You just don't want to engage in an honest debate about the relative merits of KDE and the shell as user interfaces in the X environment. And you don't want anyone else discussing the subject or posting about it. Which is very, very strange, considering how many Slackers don't use KDE (or anything like it). Stand by for some very interesting and substantial posts on the subject of ODE (the Other Desktop Environment). I'm sure you'll hate them, too. If the stress gets to be too much, you can always see a doctor about some medication. What you can't do is bully me. Not if your life depended on it. I wonder how long it's going to take you and your buddies to figure that out. You are _supposed_ to be intelligent and educated men. Tom
From: Two Ravens on 1 Feb 2008 09:14
Tom Newton wrote: > Which is very, very strange, considering how many Slackers don't use > KDE (or anything like it). Could you quantify "how many Slackers don't use KDE", 40% of Slackware� users, 50%, 60%, and cite the data that supports your contention please? I'm not disputing your contention, I'd just like to know what the figures are, and how you arrived at them. -- Two Ravens "...hit the squirrel..." |