OK to use inkjet paper in a laser printer?
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From: Andrew Smallshaw on 4 Apr 2008 17:56 On 2008-04-04, John D <jon(a)nomail.com> wrote: > I have a desktop laser printer which seems to get to much toner on the > copy-drum. I don't know why this happens to me and nor does the > engineer. Are you by any chance using refilled and/or compatible high capacity cartridges? Your toner cartridge when new incorporates an empty chamber for clearing surplus toner away. When that has filled up obviously it is unable to continue to do this. -- Andrew Smallshaw andrews(a)sdf.lonestar.org
From: kony on 5 Apr 2008 00:25 On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:46:03 -0500, Tony <tonythebengaltiger(a)gmail.com> wrote: >John D <jon(a)nomail.com> wrote: >>I have a desktop laser printer which seems to get to much toner on the >>copy-drum. I don't know why this happens to me and nor does the >>engineer. >> >>Are any ill effects caused by using "inkjet paper" in a laser printer. >> >>ISTR inkjet paper has an extra coating on it. I wonder if inkjet paper >>does not work quite right with the toner technology in a laser >>printer/copier. > >Unless the paper wrapper says that it is suitable for Lasers or Copiers then >you should not use it. Nowadays a lot of inkjet paper is in fact coated and the >coating will probably damage the fuser in a laser printer. Actually, the properties that make a coated paper desirable for inkjet use is the degree to which it absorbs ink, and the gloss. It doesn't have to have a low melting point to achieve this and most don't have a low melting point. I regularly put coated inkjet paper through a couple of laser printers I have, specifically it's semi-gloss photo paper as this type has reasonable toner adherance but most importantly for my needs, this type of paper delaminates when soaked in a detergent solution (I use it to make PCB etching patterns using the toner transfer method, in fact many many people do so with coated inkjet paper in laser printers without any problem, no damage to the fuser BUT that is no guarantee some other type of paper-like medium wouldn't cause problems).
From: Arthur Entlich on 5 Apr 2008 07:35 In general, paper designed specifically for inkjet printers should NOT be used in laser printers, because the paper is heated to quite a high temperature in a laser printer, and most inkjet printers do not heat the paper at all, or use very low temperatures (just to dry the ink a bit quicker). Most standard bond paper will indicate it can be used for both inkjet and laser paper. Some paper may have a finished surface to provide a better image than laser bond paper, and those may indicate inkjet and laser use. The problem is with paper that is designated for inkjet use specifically. It probably has a special coating on it. The glossy and semi-gloss types usually have some plastic or gelatin coating which may melt under the heat of a laser fuser. However, even if they do not melt, the may not react properly with laser technology. Some coated matte papers designed for inkjets may be safe for laser printers, but again, it is likely more costly than the equivalent laser version. In general, it is best not to use papers designed for inkjet use in a laser printer, unless they indicate they are safe for both technologies. Further, in general, inkjet papers are much more costly than similar types of laser printer papers. For instance, a glossy laser paper may cost 10 to 20 cents, a similar glossy inkjet paper will cost 50 cents to $1.50. Art John D wrote: > I have a desktop laser printer which seems to get to much toner on the > copy-drum. I don't know why this happens to me and nor does the > engineer. > > Are any ill effects caused by using "inkjet paper" in a laser printer. > > ISTR inkjet paper has an extra coating on it. I wonder if inkjet paper > does not work quite right with the toner technology in a laser > printer/copier.
From: Arthur Entlich on 5 Apr 2008 07:40 Although inkjet printers have developed more refined inks and heads which produce a more presentable result on uncoated paper, all "fine art" and photographic quality papers for inkjets are still indeed coated, or have chemistry incorporated within them for controlling dot gain, and proper ink distribution to get the dynamic range required. Yes, there are a lot of uncoated papers available for inkjet use, but they are almost all a compromise of quality over the coated papers. Art Mike Walsh wrote: > > me(a)mine.net wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:59:52 +0100, in comp.periphs.printers John D >> <jon(a)nomail.com> wrote: >> >>> Are any ill effects caused by using "inkjet paper" in a laser printer. >>> >>> ISTR inkjet paper has an extra coating on it. I wonder if inkjet paper >>> does not work quite right with the toner technology in a laser >>> printer/copier. >> Yes, the coating on inkjet papers are not formulated to take the heat >> of the fusing process in a laser printer. The worst case scenario is >> the coating melts and adheres to the hot fuser assembly. > > Most ink jet printer paper is not coated. Coated paper was necessary for older printers printing at high resolution. E.g. my old Epson Stylus 500 printer had nozzles much larger than current printers and put out so much ink at 720 dpi that coated paper was needed. The coated paper is much more expensive than uncoated paper and it is unlikely that your paper is coated unless you intentionally paid the high price to get it. >
From: Arthur Entlich on 5 Apr 2008 07:50
The risks are hard to reduce unless you specifically mention the exact paper type you use and have reasonable results with. One sheet of the wrong paper can make for a very costly repair on the laser printer. Many inkjet papers, especially glossy ones, have one or more non-absorption layers, which may be a low melting point plastic. As you say, others are safe, but only with specific knowledge is it safe to make a broad statement. Art kony wrote: > On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:46:03 -0500, Tony > <tonythebengaltiger(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> John D <jon(a)nomail.com> wrote: >>> I have a desktop laser printer which seems to get to much toner on the >>> copy-drum. I don't know why this happens to me and nor does the >>> engineer. >>> >>> Are any ill effects caused by using "inkjet paper" in a laser printer. >>> >>> ISTR inkjet paper has an extra coating on it. I wonder if inkjet paper >>> does not work quite right with the toner technology in a laser >>> printer/copier. >> Unless the paper wrapper says that it is suitable for Lasers or Copiers then >> you should not use it. Nowadays a lot of inkjet paper is in fact coated and the >> coating will probably damage the fuser in a laser printer. > > Actually, the properties that make a coated paper desirable > for inkjet use is the degree to which it absorbs ink, and > the gloss. It doesn't have to have a low melting point to > achieve this and most don't have a low melting point. > > I regularly put coated inkjet paper through a couple of > laser printers I have, specifically it's semi-gloss photo > paper as this type has reasonable toner adherance but most > importantly for my needs, this type of paper delaminates > when soaked in a detergent solution (I use it to make PCB > etching patterns using the toner transfer method, in fact > many many people do so with coated inkjet paper in laser > printers without any problem, no damage to the fuser BUT > that is no guarantee some other type of paper-like medium > wouldn't cause problems). > > |