OK to use inkjet paper in a laser printer?
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From: Tony on 6 Apr 2008 15:45 rjn <email4rjn(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Tony <tonythebengalti...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do not use paper that is embossed or coated, or any media >> that produces hazardous emissions, or that melts, offsets, >> or discolors when exposed to 190�C (374�F) for 0.1 second. > >From this, could we develop a 3-step media home safety check? > >1. RTFM > > Read the packaging. If it says > "do not use in laser printers", or > "for injet printers only", > Stop. > The media is not suited to laser. > >2. Half-Temp Test > > Hit the media with the airstream from a hair dryer. > Do this in a location where any surprise results, > like fire or nasty fumes, can be managed. > > For extra credit, first check the air temp at the > nozzle with an oven thermometer. It may be in the > vicinity of 200 degrees F, well below fuser temp, > but hot enough to identify really risky polymer- > based, and some coated media. If a second person > is available, have a Q-tip handy for checking the > stability of any coating. > > If the media relaxes, shrinks or delaminates when hit > with this air, it is not suitable for laser. If the > coating softens, gets sticky or changes color, > Stop. > The media is unsuited. > >3. Full Temp Test > > Have a plan for handling fire or hazardous fumes if > this step goes awry. Windows open. Vent fan running. > Extinguisher handy. Wear a respirator. > > Ray Bradbury reminds us that typical maximum fuser > temps (which we emulate here) are only 50 degF below > the temp at which normal paper ignites. You really > need a reliable oven thermometer for this, to > minimize fire risk. > > Tape a bare wire to the media sample. Don't use > string or thread, as it may melt. > > Put a not-too-valuable cooking sheet in your oven > (as in, do not use your pizza stone). > Set the temp to 400 degrees F. > When at that temp ... > > Put the media sample on the sheet. > Quickly remove it. > Check the coating for problems as in #2, > and the media generally. > >If the media passes these tests, it probably won't >immediately burst into flames, foul the fuser, or kill >you with poisonous fumes. Whether you'll like >the laser printed results is another matter. > >Don't try this at home until c.p.p. reaches >consensus on it. > >-- >Regards, Bob Niland mailto:name(a)ispname.tld >http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com >NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider. Bob Thank you for putting this excellent process together - clearly everybody should do this every time they buy a different paper. Hmmmm, come to think of it there may be a business opportunity here! For those that can't or won't read I could charge a small (but nice) fee for advising them that we did all the tests and the paper passed but don't use it in Laser printers anyway because I just read the manual and it says not to! $25 please, ching ching. But I digress. Best wishes Tony MS MVP Printing/Imaging
From: UCLAN on 6 Apr 2008 16:11 Arthur Entlich wrote: > Set posting positions are an old and outdated protocol, and if you find > how I post more important that the information I provide, then I suggest > you simply filter my posts out, if they are disturbing to you. I get > VERY few complaints from people who care about this, and I actually get > an equal number of people who have told me they prefer top posting in > this type of forum to that of intermingled or bottom posting. Top posting is fine for email. For newsgroups, quoting *only* the portion to which you are replying, and replying directly below that portion makes the most sense. Q then A, not A then Q. Most of us are just tired of complaining to the "me, me, me" top-posters ("Top postings saves me valuable time which allows me to respond to many more queries."), and have given up. > Also, anyone following a thread will find top posting > considerably faster to read. Those new to a thread - whose server has not retained the entire thread - must search the quoted thread then go back up to the top for your reply. Faster? A time saver? I think not. Question, THEN answer. Just like normal conversation. 'Nuff said.
From: Andrew Smallshaw on 6 Apr 2008 17:04 On 2008-04-06, John D <jon(a)nomail.com> wrote: > > After about a year or so and two standard toner cartridges, I got a > horizontal strip of powdery toner on the rear of the page. Then Oki > changed the drum for me. I would guess this strip on the rear may > have been due to the pick-up roller being too full of toner to hold > any more. This streaking had got really bad and the lighter lines > could be seen in printed text. > > This strip seems to be appearing a little bit once again with the > new drum after only one "2,500 page" toner cartridge. Printed > images show some slightly light vertical streaks (20 or 30 of them). Check the mirror for toner or other muck. If it's at all dirty clean it with an airduster. If that doesn't work try cleaning it with cotton wool and a little IPA. > I've been using mostly own-brand paper from my Tesco supermarket. > > (1) I used to use Tesco's Value White Copier Paper ("great for any > low cost, high volume printing") but it is too flimsy for my taste > at 75g per sq metre. > > (2) I started to use Tesco's Multifunction Paper (which I'm sure is > ok) but that too is a bit flimsy. > > (3) I now like Tesco's Extra White Inkjet Paper. Yup, "inkjet"! My > wrapper doesn't say much but their website shows a slightly changed > wrapper and the website adds that it is I'm a little fussy about the feel of my paper too. I can't say Ihave had any luck at all with supermarket stuff. There are two that I like at the moment: 'Artwork' paper, stocked at Rymans and maybe elsewhere. Pink and white packaging. Nice feel, very smooth and good whiteness. I stocked up on the stuff a couple of months ago when Rymans were selling it at two reams for �5 but even at the regular �3.50ish a ream it's good value. 'Color Copy' paper, I've seen this at various places including Staples and several mail order places. It's on Amazon at http://tinyurl.com/6gonyq since the name alone is hardly likely to be unique. It's difficult to overstate just how nice this paper is. Nice weight (100gsm), very white, and so smooth you do a double take to make sure it really is paper and not some kind of plastic. I really have had people comment on the paper used when I hand over documents printed on that stuff. Alas, it's not cheap. Typically it's around �8 a ream from retail outlets and that's too expensive for an everyday paper in my book. -- Andrew Smallshaw andrews(a)sdf.lonestar.org
From: Sjouke Burry on 6 Apr 2008 18:29 Arthur Entlich wrote: > Please don't infer to know what the majority of people wish my answering > protocol to be on these newsgroups. I have explained the reasons I top > post Plonk.
From: Sjouke Burry on 6 Apr 2008 18:30
ray wrote: > You provide some of the best information on this group, keep it up. I > prefer top posting, Plonk. |