OK to use inkjet paper in a laser printer?
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From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:14 On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:40:31 GMT, Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote: >Please don't infer to know what the majority of people wish my answering >protocol to be on these newsgroups. Ah, but we can infer it, that's how the majority post!
From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:17 On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:10:30 GMT, Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote: >I'm sorry, but your statements are the ones that are cavalier and >potentially may cause untold grief for others. Blah, blah blah. I and many others who do use coated paper, do so fine. You have a taboo about it, so you don't. That's fine too. I've never claimed there wasn't a possiblity of a problem, but it is a slim one and each person is able to assess their own need and whether to try it. It makes more sense to use plain old copy machine paper for most uses in a laser, or laser specific semi-gloss for pictures, but that does not rule out the majority of other coated papers. Maybe you had some bad experience years ago, but that is not a proof against what many people do today with modern paper.
From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:22 On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:40:14 -0500, Tony <tonythebengaltiger(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>Anyone using a paper only described as coated can in fact >>use it with only a very small risk. It is up to that person >>what risk to take, not you or I. > >I for one am not telling anybody to do anything. I merely answered a very >reasonable request for information and have provided an opinion. >For what it's worth, and I suspect you will find it worthless, here are some >bits of information. > >1. This comes from a public HP document (user guide) for a current printer >"Do not use photo paper that is intended for Inkjet printers. >Do not use paper that is embossed or coated, or any media that produces >hazardous >emissions, >or that melts, offsets, or discolors when exposed to 190�C (374�F) for 0.1 >second. >Also, do not use >letterhead paper that is made with dyes or inks that cannot withstand that >temperature." > >This warning is typically present in most if not all HP LaserJet user guides. Of course they want to thrust upon the user as many stipulations as possible, in order to reduce customer complaint and RMA. If they could get away with it, I'd imagine they'd even suggest using a specific HP branded paper. Even so, "Do not use paper that is embossed or coated" is clearly inconsistent and incorrect. Note they do sell coated laser paper. http://www.graytex.com/laser-hp-soft-gloss-paper.htm > >2. http://www.okidata.com/mkt/downloads/OKIMediaGuide.pdf see page 12 item >G, OKI and HP seem to agree. > >3. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/Facilities/FAQ/Printing/legal.html see the >note on the last page, it seems that the University of Indiana also agrees. > You aren't providing evidence of anything other than a blanket warning that is meant to cover rare instances. I have never argued there aren't rare papers that can't stand heat. It is up to each person to assess whether the paper they want to use is this rare type and heat test it or risk the printer. Again, I and many others use coated inkjet paper fine. It seems that I have more knowledge in this area, being able to do something many times that you were so convinced must be a big risk. Don't just randomly throw a piece of paper in a laser printer, but don't be afraid of coated paper either.
From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:25 On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:10:32 GMT, Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote: >I just want to state publicly that Tony and I did NOT confer in any >manner on our statements in regard to this issue and we each came to >this discussion independently. So you felt people would think this a conspiracy? I understand your statements, in fact I have (years ago) said similar things warning against it. Then instead of just repeating the myths I started actually looking at viable alternatives when I had a need, and after looking found that this supposed risk is very small and dependent on special formulations typically described as such, not typical coated inkjet paper.
From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:27
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:48:36 GMT, Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote: >Kony, > >I don't know where you get your information from. I don't need to get random, vague information from someone else. In business and personal use I have encountered and own several laser printers. I have actually done what you are sure is a large risk. It is a risk, but a small one. Small enough one can focus instead on the particular papers that are suspect and heat test them instead of assuming something not supported by direct evidence. >I consult with inkjet >paper manufacturers, and I have done considerable inkjet paper testing >over the years. > You have defintely not done considerable inkjet paper testing in laser printers in recent years. I have. |