OK to use inkjet paper in a laser printer?
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From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:32 On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 02:23:55 -0700, "Jon Danniken" <jonREMOVETHISdanniken(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"kony" >[snip] >> >> I regularly put coated inkjet paper through a couple of >> laser printers I have, specifically it's semi-gloss photo >> paper as this type has reasonable toner adherance but most >> importantly for my needs, this type of paper delaminates >> when soaked in a detergent solution (I use it to make PCB >> etching patterns using the toner transfer method, in fact >> many many people do so with coated inkjet paper in laser >> printers without any problem, no damage to the fuser BUT >> that is no guarantee some other type of paper-like medium >> wouldn't cause problems). > >Hi kony, > >If you don't mind me asking, what paper do you get the best results with? I >picked up some of the Staples Glossy Photo Paper for a board last year >(never got around to making it though), and I would be curious to know which >one you use. > >Jon > I usually use office superstore semi-gloss, because it costs less. The glossier it is, the more trouble getting the toner to adhere in older lasers which have less wax in the toner. However, these older lasers' toner also proves slightly more difficult in achieving spot-free transfer onto the PCB, but they are so much more economical to operate due to taking cheaper bulk toner refills. If the glossy paper is too glossy and the toner won't stick, you might try flipping it over and printing on the back side (assuming only one side is super-glossy which is usually true), although printing on the back makes it take a bit more labor to scrub off the paper layer after it has soaked in detergent solution, while the coated ones generally dissolve more in water and release fairly easily.
From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:38 On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:14:37 GMT, "Jan Alter" <bearpuf(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >For my own part I try to work on the conservative side when using a laser >printer and don't consider using ANY glossy stock. Kony, perhaps you could >provide this audience a list, or even partial list of glossy papers that >would be acceptable to lasers so that anyone desiring to use such could do >so without any forethought of damage to the printer. Any standard paper spec'd as coated inkjet paper. It's only unusual formulations that are problematic and these do have a different reflective sheen to them, and can be tested by holding over a stove burner or in front of a hairdryer to see if they get sticky. Basically, if it looks like a piece of coated paper, odds are very low it's problematic. If it looks like a sheet of plastic with a white coating on it, don't use it. When in doubt heat test it first. However, I'm not trying to advocate everyone use coated paper instead, Regular copymachine uncoated paper is far more economical for laser use, merely being a heavier weight and brighter if quality/appearance is important. I take that back, on second thought the semi-gloss sheen is important on modern color lasers which have a semi-gloss sheen to the toner so the partially covered lighter areas don't differ in contrast.
From: kony on 6 Apr 2008 19:41 On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:01:32 GMT, Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote: >Although I believe my last response pretty much deals with this whole >ball of wax, I'll just add a few points. > >Most gloss and semi-gloss coated inkjet paper run through a laser >printer will eventually lead to problems, such as paper jams or stuck >paper on the fuser, or melted paper on the fuser. So you claim, but again those who do so with typical coated paper don't have this problem. It would seem you live under the illusion that if only you write something often enough, it then becomes true. >It may not happen >immediately, but build up of the melted plastic can and does occur. You have no evidence it will occur in any significant amount. Fact is, any drum wears out eventually, and all mine did from regular wear not coated paper.
From: CBFalconer on 6 Apr 2008 20:51 Arthur Entlich wrote: > > Although I believe my last response pretty much deals with this > whole ball of wax, I'll just add a few points. Since, once more, this thread is mixed up by the uncaring unsnipped top-posting, I find it necessary to plonk the author. -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: CBFalconer on 6 Apr 2008 20:43
Andrew Smallshaw wrote: > Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote: > >> Please don't infer to know what the majority of people wish my >> answering protocol to be on these newsgroups. I have explained >> the reasons I top post numerous times in various groups I post >> within, and you'll find them, at the top, intermingled and at >> the bottom of such previous requests or comments. Top postings >> saves me valuable time which allows me to respond to many more >> queries. It also saves times for many readers of my replies. > > So it saves _you_ time and that's all that matters. To hell with > everyone else. It wastes everyone's else time because a lengthy > post like this has no context visible on screen. I for one had no > idea what you were referring to until I scrolled down to have a > look and _then_ back up again to reread your comments. But that > doesn't matter because your time is all that matters. > > I wish top-posting advocates would shut up and learn the basics of > netiquette. It has evolved over decades and most rules are there > for a reason. By deliberately ignoring them you aren't helping > anyone since your posts are not in the standard form expected by > most readers. > > If you continually ignore established rules of etiquette whether > on or off line people are entitled to regard your behaviour as > inappropriate and/or insulting. This is without even considering > the very purpose of quoting previous posts: if it is not providing > context then there is no point in quoting at all. It is also obvious that Mr Entlich didn't bother to read the references I posted, which I am repeating below: <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> <http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html> <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html> <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/> (taming google) -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |