OK to use inkjet paper in a laser printer? [Hardware]

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From: measekite on 6 Apr 2008 22:24

From: measekite on 6 Apr 2008 22:25

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CBFalconer wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Andrew Smallshaw wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Arthur Entlich <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org"><e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org></a> wrote:

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<pre wrap="">Please don't infer to know what the majority of people wish my
answering protocol to be on these newsgroups. I have explained
the reasons I top post numerous times in various groups I post
within, and you'll find them, at the top, intermingled and at
the bottom of such previous requests or comments. Top postings
saves me valuable time which allows me to respond to many more
queries. It also saves times for many readers of my replies.
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<pre wrap="">So it saves _you_ time and that's all that matters. To hell with
everyone else. It wastes everyone's else time because a lengthy
post like this has no context visible on screen. I for one had no
idea what you were referring to until I scrolled down to have a
look and _then_ back up again to reread your comments. But that
doesn't matter because your time is all that matters.

I wish top-posting advocates would shut up and learn the basics of
netiquette. It has evolved over decades and most rules are there
for a reason. By deliberately ignoring them you aren't helping
anyone since your posts are not in the standard form expected by
most readers.

If you continually ignore established rules of etiquette whether
on or off line people are entitled to regard your behaviour as
inappropriate and/or insulting. This is without even considering
the very purpose of quoting previous posts: if it is not providing
context then there is no point in quoting at all.
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It is also obvious that Mr Entlich didn't bother to read the
references I posted, which I am repeating below:
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What do you expect.  He writes a manual<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html"><http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html"><http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html"><http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/"><http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/></a> (taming google)

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From: Jon Danniken on 7 Apr 2008 09:05

"kony" wrote:
> I usually use office superstore semi-gloss, because it costs
> less. The glossier it is, the more trouble getting the
> toner to adhere in older lasers which have less wax in the
> toner. However, these older lasers' toner also proves
> slightly more difficult in achieving spot-free transfer onto
> the PCB, but they are so much more economical to operate due
> to taking cheaper bulk toner refills.
>
> If the glossy paper is too glossy and the toner won't stick,
> you might try flipping it over and printing on the back side
> (assuming only one side is super-glossy which is usually
> true), although printing on the back makes it take a bit
> more labor to scrub off the paper layer after it has soaked
> in detergent solution, while the coated ones generally
> dissolve more in water and release fairly easily.

Thanks, kony, I appreciate knowing your experience on it. I guess I ought
to get around to doing one just for fun to see how my results turn out, at
least before I have a good project on the line.

Jon

From: Cal Bubba on 7 Apr 2008 18:35

ray wrote:
> You provide some of the best information on this group, keep it up. I
> prefer top posting, no need to scroll down to the bottom of a thread
> that I am following.
>
> Thanks

I agree.

Arthur is an outstanding asset to this newsgroup (printers: not the
other cross-posts, which may have brought in the unfamiliar -- ah --
names. In my experience, he makes his points effectively, and however he
wants to do this is fine with me because he communicates effectively.
Arthur also has very useful and thoughtful things to say.

If you have a clogged Epson printer, you need Arthur desperately, no
matter how he posts.

In fact, my own use of text positioning is flexible, depending on the
context. For example, when the OP's text is important to quote, I'll
post after his. Sometimes, I'll intersperse comments between the OP's
points. When mine is short and to-the-point, I'll put it on top.

There's usually a point in editing out irrelevant parts of an initial
post to save bandwidth. Top posting to people who already know the
foregoing thread saves keystrokes and tired eyes.

I don't see any point is slavishly adhering to rigid rules that have no
reason to exist.

As a person who writes a lot, and is known for straight-ahead, clear
technical documentation, I place clarity above everything, and to hell
with anything that interferes with clarity. And, yes: clarity includes
context. Since the human brain makes connections in strange and magical
ways, so does my writing. When I'm trying to communicate ideas so that
people can grok them, please stay out of my way: "I'm walkin' here!"
(Ratso Rizzo.)

Richard

From: measekite on 7 Apr 2008 20:01

Cal Bubba wrote:
> ray wrote:
>> You provide some of the best information on this group, keep it up. I
>> prefer top posting, no need to scroll down to the bottom of a thread
>> that I am following.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> I agree.
>
> Arthur is an outstanding asset to this newsgroup (printers: not the
> other cross-posts, which may have brought in the unfamiliar -- ah --
> names. In my experience, he makes his points effectively, and however
> he wants to do this is fine with me because he communicates
> effectively. Arthur also has very useful and thoughtful things to say.
>
> If you have a clogged Epson printer, you need
Epson Tech Support
> Arthur desperately, no matter how he posts.
>
> In fact, my own use of text positioning is flexible, depending on the
> context. For example, when the OP's text is important to quote, I'll
> post after his. Sometimes, I'll intersperse comments between the OP's
> points. When mine is short and to-the-point, I'll put it on top.
>
> There's usually a point in editing out irrelevant parts of an initial
> post to save bandwidth. Top posting to people who already know the
> foregoing thread saves keystrokes and tired eyes.
>
> I don't see any point is slavishly adhering to rigid rules that have
> no reason to exist.
>
> As a person who writes a lot, and is known for straight-ahead, clear
> technical documentation, I place clarity above everything, and to hell
> with anything that interferes with clarity. And, yes: clarity includes
> context. Since the human brain makes connections in strange and
> magical ways, so does my writing. When I'm trying to communicate ideas
> so that people can grok them, please stay out of my way: "I'm walkin'
> here!" (Ratso Rizzo.)
>
> Richard

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