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From: John Drako on 10 Sep 2005 15:01 On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:38:12 -0400, David Magda wrote (in article <m27jdo3jsr.fsf(a)gandalf.local>): > John Drako <jbravo556(a)gmail.removethis.com> writes: > >> Current Macs don't support booting from USB. They support booting >> from firewire drives. That is the opposite of Windows; it boots from >> USB but not from firewire. Is it a 'glitch' in windows or complete >> lack of support? > > This isn't a fuction of Windows as much as the BIOS. As long as the > PC's BIOS recognizes it should be able to start up the boot > loader. I know these things. But for the sake of simplicity, I mentioned windows. That is why I also said 'current macs', if apple uses intel chips sets with the upcoming MacTels then there is a fairly good chance that the situation gets reversed, unless of course Apple does some cross licensing with Intel and Intel creates new chip sets that support Firewire and Firewire booting; in that case USB booting will come as a bonus (I don't think intel would remove such functionality from their chips even if its inclusion is not requested by Apple). Since firewire functionality is built into the chip set then new MacTels would need new chip sets. Nobody yet knows whether Apple will be using Intel's chip sets or use their in-house-built chips sets like the days of the PowerPC. I don't see Apple dropping Firewire to go with Intel technology all the way. The advantages of Firewire in the DV segment are too important for Apple to remove the technology completely. So if Apple were to go with Intel's chip sets, then I'm 99% sure that Intel will create new chip sets that include Firewire. If Intel builds such chips sets, and if the licensing agreement with Apple allows then Intel could sell motherboards with those same chip sets to Wintel makers and thus, systems running windows on those motherboards could gain Firewire booting.
From: Helpful Harry on 10 Sep 2005 16:51 In <p3kUe.8202$tc7.5659(a)fe03.lga> John Wolf wrote: > > It appears that you people were right and I was wrong. I will need to > add 1GB more of RAM to my ibook. 512MB is just not enough. That greatly depends on what you're doing. I've got an out-of-the-box iMac G3 happily running Mac OS X 10.4 with just 512MB RAM. OK, it can be a little slow and would be happiER with more RAM, but it's not necessary by any stretch of the imagination, especially since it's only being used as a glorified typewriter and database data-entry system. Helpful Harry Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)
From: Shawn Hirn on 10 Sep 2005 17:49 In article <p3kUe.8202$tc7.5659(a)fe03.lga>, "John Wolf" <johnw_94020(a)yahoo.comPDA> wrote: > It appears that you people were right and I was wrong. I will need to add > 1GB more of RAM to my ibook. 512MB is just not enough. Really? Which OS X version are you using and which applications? I am using Tiger on my Tibook right now with 512MB RAM and its fine. > I like OSX but hate how much diskspace and RAM it eats up. I also dislike > how I cannot boot from a zip disk,or boot with the os from a CD-ROM. On the > old Mac OS I could also boot with the os,but not just an app. This reminds > me of the floppy disk days of Norton Utilities for 68K macs. I could create > bootable floppy disks from the program that would boot a app like Speed Disk, > Disk Doctor or whatever. On my Performa I had boot CD's, zips, and 1 floppy. > > > After experiencing the torture of booting Tech Tools Pro 4.x from its boot > CD, I can say without a doubt that booting from a boot floppy created with > Norton 2.x on a 68K Mac was faster. But then again the OS is far more > sophisticated than OS 7.x. > > So what is it I cant boot from a USB 2.x drive? Is there a way around this > apple glitch? Your hard drive probably doesn't have the firmware to support booting from it. Check with the drive's manufacturer to see if that issue can be corrected.
From: martin cohen on 12 Sep 2005 20:47 Christopher J. Henrich wrote: > In article <1h2ob69.jxz65g1xs2ghsN%nonesuch(a)place.com>, Adrian > <nonesuch(a)place.com> wrote: > > >>Roger Johnstone <rojaws(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >>>Make sure you're using high density floppy disks. USB floppy drives >>>don't support the old Apple 800KB disks, although that's not normally a >>>problem anyway since Mac OS X requires a least a megabyte of disk space >>>for a minimum bootable system. I shudder to think what will happen in a >>>few years if the OS continues to grow and won't fit on a floppy disk >>>anymore! >> >>Indeed. This is why I have produced a utility called PunchTapeConverter. >>You really can't beat having a genuine hard copy of your OS on punched >>tape. It is important to store your backup tape carefully, but I have >>found that the tapes containing a full OS X Tiger copy can be fitted >>into a double garage quite easily. Having your car out on the drive is a >>small price to pay for the peace of mind you get. > > I've found that it is important to store the tapes in plastic or metal > boxes, not cardboard. Otherwise they attract carpenter ants and > termites. > > After all, you don't want bugs in your OS. > If you want to use the UNIVERSAL media, go with punched magnetic tape! You can read it with ANYTHING! And bugs can't eat it! Martin Cohen
From: LaManchaDQ on 14 Sep 2005 12:13
"Adrian" <nonesuch(a)place.com> wrote in message news:1h2oup5.1szdh2s1rtk2rkN%nonesuch(a)place.com... > Christopher J. Henrich <chenrich(a)monmouth.com> wrote: > >> In article <1h2ob69.jxz65g1xs2ghsN%nonesuch(a)place.com>, Adrian >> <nonesuch(a)place.com> wrote: >> >> > Roger Johnstone <rojaws(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote: >> > >> > > Make sure you're using high density floppy disks. USB floppy drives >> > > don't support the old Apple 800KB disks, although that's not normally >> > > a >> > > problem anyway since Mac OS X requires a least a megabyte of disk >> > > space >> > > for a minimum bootable system. I shudder to think what will happen in >> > > a >> > > few years if the OS continues to grow and won't fit on a floppy disk >> > > anymore! >> > >> > Indeed. This is why I have produced a utility called >> > PunchTapeConverter. >> > You really can't beat having a genuine hard copy of your OS on punched >> > tape. It is important to store your backup tape carefully, but I have >> > found that the tapes containing a full OS X Tiger copy can be fitted >> > into a double garage quite easily. Having your car out on the drive is >> > a >> > small price to pay for the peace of mind you get. >> I've found that it is important to store the tapes in plastic or metal >> boxes, not cardboard. Otherwise they attract carpenter ants and >> termites. >> >> After all, you don't want bugs in your OS. > > Hey, if those bugs go to work in an organised fashion they could end up > doing a little additional programming themselves. > > -- > Adrian Absolutely brilliant conclusion. If a room full of monkeys could write the Bible or War And Peace, why couldn't ant and termites produce code? In producing this code be aware, though, the time variable may be extended beyond personally convenient levels. Compensation for this can be had by increasing the insect population. A simple task give the sheer numbers of both available in my area. I anticipate vernacular issues from resultant ant/termite produced code so it is important to have completely homogeneous insect worker groups. LaManchaDQ |