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From: John Wolf on 9 Sep 2005 13:58 It appears that you people were right and I was wrong. I will need to add 1GB more of RAM to my ibook. 512MB is just not enough. I like OSX but hate how much diskspace and RAM it eats up. I also dislike how I cannot boot from a zip disk,or boot with the os from a CD-ROM. On the old Mac OS I could also boot with the os,but not just an app. This reminds me of the floppy disk days of Norton Utilities for 68K macs. I could create bootable floppy disks from the program that would boot a app like Speed Disk, Disk Doctor or whatever. On my Performa I had boot CD's, zips, and 1 floppy. After experiencing the torture of booting Tech Tools Pro 4.x from its boot CD, I can say without a doubt that booting from a boot floppy created with Norton 2.x on a 68K Mac was faster. But then again the OS is far more sophisticated than OS 7.x. So what is it I cant boot from a USB 2.x drive? Is there a way around this apple glitch? John -- Posted with a Jornada 720 Handheld PC Posted with Ink Spot (for Windows CE) from DejaVu Software, Inc. Usenet wherever you are - http://www.dejavusoftware.com/
From: John Drako on 9 Sep 2005 16:46 On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:58:45 -0400, John Wolf wrote (in article <p3kUe.8202$tc7.5659(a)fe03.lga>): > It appears that you people were right and I was wrong. It's all about point of view. > I will need to add 1GB more of RAM to my ibook. 512MB is just not > enough. Depends on what you're doing and I guess with what you're doing, 512 MB is not enough. > I like OSX but hate how much diskspace and RAM it eats up. I also > dislike how I cannot boot from a zip disk,or boot with the os from a > CD-ROM. It does boot from CD, who said it doesn't? > On the old Mac OS I could also boot with the os,but not just an app. > This reminds me of the floppy disk days of Norton Utilities for 68K > macs. I could create bootable floppy disks from the program that > would boot a app like Speed Disk, Disk Doctor or whatever. On my > Performa I had boot CD's, zips, and 1 floppy. > > > After experiencing the torture of booting Tech Tools Pro 4.x from its > boot CD, I can say without a doubt that booting from a boot floppy > created with Norton 2.x on a 68K Mac was faster. But then again the > OS is far more sophisticated than OS 7.x. So now you're saying that you booted from a CD, so which is it? Boots from a CD or Not? > So what is it I cant boot from a USB 2.x drive? Is there a way > around this apple glitch? Nope. And I wouldn't classify it as 'glitch'. Current Macs don't support booting from USB. They support booting from firewire drives. That is the opposite of Windows; it boots from USB but not from firewire. Is it a 'glitch' in windows or complete lack of support? The best practice for a Mac laptop owner in my experience is to get an external firewire drive for backups and maintenance booting. Personally, it's the 20 GB iPod. Music player, critical files backup drive and emergency boot drive. Being the bit paranoid type, I have two such iPods.
From: Roger Johnstone on 10 Sep 2005 05:00 In <p3kUe.8202$tc7.5659(a)fe03.lga> John Wolf wrote: > It appears that you people were right and I was wrong. I will need to > add 1GB more of RAM to my ibook. 512MB is just not enough. > > I like OSX but hate how much diskspace and RAM it eats up. I also > dislike how I cannot boot from a zip disk,or boot with the os from a > CD-ROM. On the old Mac OS I could also boot with the os,but not just > an app. This reminds me of the floppy disk days of Norton Utilities > for 68K macs. I could create bootable floppy disks from the program > that would boot a app like Speed Disk, Disk Doctor or whatever. On my > Performa I had boot CD's, zips, and 1 floppy. > > After experiencing the torture of booting Tech Tools Pro 4.x from its > boot CD, I can say without a doubt that booting from a boot floppy > created with Norton 2.x on a 68K Mac was faster. But then again the > OS is far more sophisticated than OS 7.x. > > So what is it I cant boot from a USB 2.x drive? Is there a way around > this apple glitch? Make sure you're using high density floppy disks. USB floppy drives don't support the old Apple 800KB disks, although that's not normally a problem anyway since Mac OS X requires a least a megabyte of disk space for a minimum bootable system. I shudder to think what will happen in a few years if the OS continues to grow and won't fit on a floppy disk anymore! -- Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand http://vintageware.orcon.net.nz/ ________________________________________________________________________ No Silicon Heaven? Preposterous! Where would all the calculators go? Kryten, from the Red Dwarf episode "The Last Day"
From: Adrian on 10 Sep 2005 07:48 Roger Johnstone <rojaws(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote: > Make sure you're using high density floppy disks. USB floppy drives > don't support the old Apple 800KB disks, although that's not normally a > problem anyway since Mac OS X requires a least a megabyte of disk space > for a minimum bootable system. I shudder to think what will happen in a > few years if the OS continues to grow and won't fit on a floppy disk > anymore! Indeed. This is why I have produced a utility called PunchTapeConverter. You really can't beat having a genuine hard copy of your OS on punched tape. It is important to store your backup tape carefully, but I have found that the tapes containing a full OS X Tiger copy can be fitted into a double garage quite easily. Having your car out on the drive is a small price to pay for the peace of mind you get. -- Adrian
From: Christopher J. Henrich on 10 Sep 2005 10:01
In article <1h2ob69.jxz65g1xs2ghsN%nonesuch(a)place.com>, Adrian <nonesuch(a)place.com> wrote: > Roger Johnstone <rojaws(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote: > > > Make sure you're using high density floppy disks. USB floppy drives > > don't support the old Apple 800KB disks, although that's not normally a > > problem anyway since Mac OS X requires a least a megabyte of disk space > > for a minimum bootable system. I shudder to think what will happen in a > > few years if the OS continues to grow and won't fit on a floppy disk > > anymore! > > Indeed. This is why I have produced a utility called PunchTapeConverter. > You really can't beat having a genuine hard copy of your OS on punched > tape. It is important to store your backup tape carefully, but I have > found that the tapes containing a full OS X Tiger copy can be fitted > into a double garage quite easily. Having your car out on the drive is a > small price to pay for the peace of mind you get. I've found that it is important to store the tapes in plastic or metal boxes, not cardboard. Otherwise they attract carpenter ants and termites. After all, you don't want bugs in your OS. -- Chris Henrich http://www.mathinteract.com God just doesn't fit inside a single religion. |