OT: BNP man to be shunned in London assembly
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From: Knight Of The Road on 4 May 2008 10:16 "J.J. O'Shea" <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote > Someone doesn't like freedom of expression, eh? Hint: racist scumbags are > free to yap... and sane people are free to not listen to them. I would not > do > anything to prevent BNP scumbags from being elected; to do so would deny > the > rights of the idiot scumbags who voted for them, and the rights of the BNP > scumbags themselves to stand for election, and a whole lot of other > things. I > don't want to do that, even if they are racist maggots. However, there is > absolutely nothing which says that I must associate in any way whatsoever > with the likes of them. And I won't. And I'll support the rights of those > who > don't what to associate with t them. By all means the others should make > it > abundantly clear exactly how much co-operation BP racist maggots can > expect: > zero. It appears that they have done exactly that. This is a Good Thing. > If > you, or anyone else, doesn't like it, that is not my problem. You are free > to > walk away, just as I am. Of course, if you walk away, you serve _my_ > purpose: > removing your noxious presence from my vicinity. If _I_ walk away, I serve > my > purpose: removing your noxious presence from my vicinity. Heads I win, > tails > you lose... but then BNP scumbags are, by definition, losers. I really don't know a great deal about the BNP. Are they racist, or do they just have a more rigid stance on immigration? What among their policies would be considered to be racist and/or fascist? -- Regards, Vince. Snowdonia trucking POV- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_qusgJlk3M
From: J.J. O'Shea on 4 May 2008 10:29 On Sun, 4 May 2008 10:16:57 -0400, Knight Of The Road wrote (in article <QKqdna6K_OTCWIDVnZ2dnUVZ8s2mnZ2d(a)bt.com>): > > "J.J. O'Shea" <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote > >> Someone doesn't like freedom of expression, eh? Hint: racist scumbags are >> free to yap... and sane people are free to not listen to them. I would not >> do >> anything to prevent BNP scumbags from being elected; to do so would deny >> the >> rights of the idiot scumbags who voted for them, and the rights of the BNP >> scumbags themselves to stand for election, and a whole lot of other >> things. I >> don't want to do that, even if they are racist maggots. However, there is >> absolutely nothing which says that I must associate in any way whatsoever >> with the likes of them. And I won't. And I'll support the rights of those >> who >> don't what to associate with t them. By all means the others should make >> it >> abundantly clear exactly how much co-operation BP racist maggots can >> expect: >> zero. It appears that they have done exactly that. This is a Good Thing. >> If >> you, or anyone else, doesn't like it, that is not my problem. You are free >> to >> walk away, just as I am. Of course, if you walk away, you serve _my_ >> purpose: >> removing your noxious presence from my vicinity. If _I_ walk away, I serve >> my >> purpose: removing your noxious presence from my vicinity. Heads I win, >> tails >> you lose... but then BNP scumbags are, by definition, losers. > > I really don't know a great deal about the BNP. Are they racist, or do they > just have a more rigid stance on immigration? What among their policies > would be considered to be racist and/or fascist? > They're racist. See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party>. You can also have a look at their website; it's most revealing. See also <http://chasemeladies.blogspot.com/2004/06/killer-fact_07.html>, which shows them for the losers they are. -- email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
From: Mike P on 4 May 2008 10:29 "Knight Of The Road" <russiatrucking(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:QKqdna6K_OTCWIDVnZ2dnUVZ8s2mnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > "J.J. O'Shea" <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote > >> Someone doesn't like freedom of expression, eh? Hint: racist scumbags are >> free to yap... and sane people are free to not listen to them. I would >> not do >> anything to prevent BNP scumbags from being elected; to do so would deny >> the >> rights of the idiot scumbags who voted for them, and the rights of the >> BNP >> scumbags themselves to stand for election, and a whole lot of other >> things. I >> don't want to do that, even if they are racist maggots. However, there is >> absolutely nothing which says that I must associate in any way whatsoever >> with the likes of them. And I won't. And I'll support the rights of those >> who >> don't what to associate with t them. By all means the others should make >> it >> abundantly clear exactly how much co-operation BP racist maggots can >> expect: >> zero. It appears that they have done exactly that. This is a Good Thing. >> If >> you, or anyone else, doesn't like it, that is not my problem. You are >> free to >> walk away, just as I am. Of course, if you walk away, you serve _my_ >> purpose: >> removing your noxious presence from my vicinity. If _I_ walk away, I >> serve my >> purpose: removing your noxious presence from my vicinity. Heads I win, >> tails >> you lose... but then BNP scumbags are, by definition, losers. > > I really don't know a great deal about the BNP. Are they racist, or do > they just have a more rigid stance on immigration? What among their > policies would be considered to be racist and/or fascist? > -- Somewhere between racists and fantastists if you read their policy from the website. The one who came canvassing us up in Lancs for the 2005 elections was probably racist. We invited him in for our own amusement/disgust. He appeared to think using words like "all those darkies" and "bloody pakis" acceptable... polices here . I had to read it just to make my own mind up. http://www.bnp.org.uk/sms-news-texts/ Mike P
From: Steve Terry on 4 May 2008 11:18 "Bill" <co10(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:685ja2F2rhl2bU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Knight Of The Road" <russiatrucking(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:C6udnah4IdoMC4DVnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> Although I've no sympathies with the BNP I presume this candidate was >> elected in a democratic vote and so the electorate who chose him are >> effectively being shunned. > > Ah, but most of who voted BNP would be white, of no consequence in > New Labour's Britain. > Bill > White english are not enough of a minority yet to matter. Steve Terry
From: A. J. Moss on 6 May 2008 20:56
On 5 May, 04:42, real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > A. J. Moss <ajmoss_throwaway_account_...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > > > A shame that the BNP don't get more treatment like that. Those scumbags > > > need to be smashed like all other fascist scumbags. > > > It's when otherwise reasonable, middle-of-the-road people like you > > believe it is acceptable to parrot vindictive prejudices like that, > > The problem is that you assume I'm prejudiced. > You are seriously mistaken in your assumption. "Scumbags?" "Smashed?" You're using the same linguistic style as some of the most hate-filled people I've ever heard of. Obviously I've never met you (I think I've conversed with you once, about that BBC4 Hawkwind documentary a year ago.) In a certain ontological sense, I could picture you as no more than the sum of your Usenet postings. If you want to explain *why* you are not prejudiced in this regard -- and this is different from the assertion that you *are* prejudiced but justified in being so -- then you will have more chance of beating the odds in the following: > No, I'm not trying to convince you. History shows that there is no > point in discussion or argument on this one: pick your side, and make a > stand. The politics of abortion or gun control are similar in that regard. You should be looking not to try to beat your ideological opponents (be it by words or by violence, or indeed by verbal violence), but to try and convince the neutral observers of this public argument. > > Do you mind if I smoke? I don't actually smoke: can't stand the smell, > > but under the present political climate I feel I really should start. > > Ditto pistol shooting and foxhunting. > > The government is doing it wrong on the firearms and foxhunting matters. > It's doing it right with smoking. I do smoke, don't shoot guns (used to > do arrows), and can't even ride a horse let alone ride in a fox hunt. I can't agree with the proliferation of no-smoking signs that have been compulsorily put up in every shop window. But that's a minor issue here. > None of those issues have anything to do with the BNP: I know them, and > they are scum. Do you know *any* of them as individuals? I strongly suspect you've bundled them together into a group, and consider them solely by their group characteristic (as you perceive it.) The same sort of nonsense allows people to countenance committing violence against "The Jews", based on their disapproval of Israeli geopolitics. Some genteel watch-fixer in Bethnal Green whose shop closes on a Saturday doesn't deserve to have it vandalised for that. > > After all, Martin Niemoller wasn't a communist. > > Great non-sequiters of our time. No it isn't. You just need to follow the train of thought. I'm sure you know Niemöller's (I just copied and pasted that o-umlaut from your next line -- this isn't a German keyboard, and doesn't directly support accented letters) most famous poem by heart. It asserts the importance of speaking out for persecuted minorities, whoever they are. I can't ride a horse; I wouldn't trust myself with a gun; and I don't smoke. Nor do I have any sympathy for the policies of the BNP. But when people start talking in all seriousness about the merit of persecuting a group, any group, with extreme political violence, I know I have to speak out against it. > btw, it's Niemöller or Niemoeller. |