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From: Clark F Morris on 8 Jan 2008 09:14 I read the article mentioned below and tend to agree with it. I also believe that a serious lack in computer science education is the failure to explore the paradigm for COBOL, the different mathematics (fixed point decimal versus floating point), the reasons for the use and the different expected results. The difference in thought between fields and strings should also be further explored. Clark Morris On 8 Jan 2008 04:14:25 -0800, zwebsphere(a)YAHOO.COM (Aaron Walker) wrote: >Here is a posting and accompanying article on Slashdot which you may enjoy. > >http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/01/08/0348239.shtml > >http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.html > >Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow? > >It is our view that Computer Science (CS) education is neglecting basic >skills, in particular in the areas of programming and formal methods. We >consider that the general adoption of Java as a first programming language >is in part responsible for this decline. We examine briefly the set of >programming skills that should be part of every software professional�s >repertoire. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to listserv(a)bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
From: Alistair on 9 Jan 2008 07:28 On 8 Jan, 14:14, Clark F Morris <cfmpub...(a)ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > I read the article mentioned below and tend to agree with it. I also > believe that a serious lack in computer science education is the > failure to explore the paradigm for COBOL, the different mathematics > (fixed point decimal versus floating point), the reasons for the use > and the different expected results. The difference in thought between > fields and strings should also be further explored. > > Clark Morris > > On 8 Jan 2008 04:14:25 -0800, zwebsph...(a)YAHOO.COM (Aaron Walker) > wrote: > > > > >Here is a posting and accompanying article on Slashdot which you may enjoy. > > >http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/01/08/0348239.shtml > > >http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.html > > >Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow? > > >It is our view that Computer Science (CS) education is neglecting basic > >skills, in particular in the areas of programming and formal methods. We > >consider that the general adoption of Java as a first programming language > >is in part responsible for this decline. We examine briefly the set of > >programming skills that should be part of every software professional's > >repertoire. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >send email to lists...(a)bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > >Search the archives athttp://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Some of you may be interested to note that some universities in the UK now consider Information and Communication Technology to be a soft advanced level qualification (taken by 18-19 year olds) and advise that in order to enter their university a choice must be made from approved subjects. see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7174848.stm Pete is wrong; it isn't Cobol that is dead bit ICT in the western world. :-0
From: Pete Dashwood on 9 Jan 2008 16:52 "Alistair" <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:93bbfd90-98a4-488b-bd59-7a622b16f582(a)c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > On 8 Jan, 14:14, Clark F Morris <cfmpub...(a)ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: >> I read the article mentioned below and tend to agree with it. I also >> believe that a serious lack in computer science education is the >> failure to explore the paradigm for COBOL, the different mathematics >> (fixed point decimal versus floating point), the reasons for the use >> and the different expected results. The difference in thought between >> fields and strings should also be further explored. >> >> Clark Morris >> >> On 8 Jan 2008 04:14:25 -0800, zwebsph...(a)YAHOO.COM (Aaron Walker) >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Here is a posting and accompanying article on Slashdot which you may >> >enjoy. >> >> >http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/01/08/0348239.shtml >> >> >http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.html >> >> >Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of >> >Tomorrow? >> >> >It is our view that Computer Science (CS) education is neglecting basic >> >skills, in particular in the areas of programming and formal methods. We >> >consider that the general adoption of Java as a first programming >> >language >> >is in part responsible for this decline. We examine briefly the set of >> >programming skills that should be part of every software professional's >> >repertoire. >> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> >send email to lists...(a)bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >> >Search the archives athttp://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html- Hide >> >quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Some of you may be interested to note that some universities in the UK > now consider Information and Communication Technology to be a soft > advanced level qualification (taken by 18-19 year olds) and advise > that in order to enter their university a choice must be made from > approved subjects. see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7174848.stm > > Pete is wrong; it isn't Cobol that is dead bit ICT in the western > world. > :-0 As I am currently writing Telephony software, it certainly isn't dead at my place... :-) However, I am not using COBOL to do it, so this does reinforce my argument :-) Whether I am right or wrong, I would strongly advise people to expand their skill sets... Pete. -- "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."
From: ballantine on 10 Jan 2008 12:36
But no one answered your question, Clark. The software engineers of tomorrow are in Japan, China, India & Russia ... |