Old HDD problem
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From: fbsnr on 24 Jan 2006 17:12 I have an old(ish) PC, bought in 2000, running Windows 98SE, with its own originsal HDD, which works fine. I also have an even older HDD which is a Western Digital Caviar 2850, which dates back to 1995, which I kept from an even older computer running Windows 95. When I had my old PC, I could install the old HDD as a second master on IDE2, and it worked fine, so I used it for backups then. I've now tried to install this HDD as a master on IDE2 on my current (Windows 98SE) computer with the following results. Windows 98SE takes about 3 times as long to boot up, hanging for about 30 secs at the POST screen. Although this is eventually cleared with a single beep, it then hangs for about another minute at logo.sys screen, although that clears, and the boot up procedure then completes. The PC works fine in nearly every way. My 2nd HDD [D:\] is shown on the desktop. But when I try to click it, I get the error message "D:\ is not accessible. A device attached to your system is not functioning.." So I go into Control Panel, hit System,, look up Device Manager. But no conflicts are shown, and Properties for the HDD show 'this device to be working properly'. So I cannot use the disk in full Windows. But when I boot into 'Safe Mode', then I can click on the D:\ drive, and use the 2nd HDD as normal So it appears to be a Windows driver issue.. It is printed on the old HDD that it is 'AT compatible', but my mobo is an ATX. Furthermore my old PC was an AT mobo, which suggests one reason why it worked ok on my old PC. But I thought HDD controllers were backward compatible with older ATAPI devices. There is actually a driver for this particular device available on the Web, but I've never had to use drivers for installing an HDD as the Windows generic ones always suffice. Has anyone further ideas how to use the HDD in full Windows 98SE?
From: philo on 24 Jan 2006 17:23 fbsnr(a)yahoo.co.uk wrote: > I have an old(ish) PC, bought in 2000, running Windows 98SE, with its > own originsal HDD, which works fine. I also have an even older HDD > which is a Western Digital Caviar 2850, which dates back to 1995, which > I kept from an even older computer running Windows 95. When I had my > old PC, I could install the old HDD as a second master on IDE2, and it > worked fine, so I used it for backups then. <snip> since the drive is 10 years old i would not bother with it... just backup any data you have on it...then don't use it anymore
From: Sleepy on 24 Jan 2006 19:10 <fbsnr(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1138140750.619019.77420(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I have an old(ish) PC, bought in 2000, running Windows 98SE, with its > own originsal HDD, which works fine. I also have an even older HDD > which is a Western Digital Caviar 2850, which dates back to 1995, which > I kept from an even older computer running Windows 95. When I had my > old PC, I could install the old HDD as a second master on IDE2, and it > worked fine, so I used it for backups then. > > I've now tried to install this HDD as a master on IDE2 on my current > (Windows 98SE) computer with the following results. Windows 98SE takes > about 3 times as long to boot up, hanging for about 30 secs at the POST > screen. Although this is eventually cleared with a single beep, it then > hangs for about another minute at logo.sys screen, although that > clears, and the boot up procedure then completes. The PC works fine in > nearly every way. My 2nd HDD [D:\] is shown on the desktop. But when I > try to click it, I get the error message "D:\ is not accessible. A > device attached to your system is not functioning.." So I go into > Control Panel, hit System,, look up Device Manager. But no conflicts > are shown, and Properties for the HDD show 'this device to be working > properly'. So I cannot use the disk in full Windows. But when I boot > into 'Safe Mode', then I can click on the D:\ drive, and use the 2nd > HDD as normal > > So it appears to be a Windows driver issue.. It is printed on the old > HDD that it is 'AT compatible', but my mobo is an ATX. Furthermore my > old PC was an AT mobo, which suggests one reason why it worked ok on my > old PC. But I thought HDD controllers were backward compatible with > older ATAPI devices. There is actually a driver for this particular > device available on the Web, but I've never had to use drivers for > installing an HDD as the Windows generic ones always suffice. > > Has anyone further ideas how to use the HDD in full Windows 98SE? > check jumper settings and use master/slave rather than cable select. if theres a cdrom attached to IDE2 that was previously a master did you remember to switch it to slave? also if a HDDs fat table thingummy gets corrupted that will cause the same error - try formatting the D drive afresh.
From: fbsnr on 24 Jan 2006 19:49 Sleepy wrote: > > check jumper settings and use master/slave rather than cable select. if > theres a cdrom attached to IDE2 that was previously a master did you > remember to switch it to slave? also if a HDDs fat table thingummy gets > corrupted that will cause the same error - try formatting the D drive > afresh. > Jumper setting for HDD(2) is on master (IDE2). CDROM is disconnected.. IThere cannot be a problem with HDD's FAT table as disk works normally in 'Safe Mode'. It would not work at all if FAT was corrupted. I've done a scandisk and there are no errors.
From: Pen on 24 Jan 2006 19:56
<fbsnr(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1138150171.108645.322940(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Sleepy wrote: >> >> check jumper settings and use master/slave rather than >> cable select. if >> theres a cdrom attached to IDE2 that was previously a >> master did you >> remember to switch it to slave? also if a HDDs fat table >> thingummy gets >> corrupted that will cause the same error - try formatting >> the D drive >> afresh. >> > Jumper setting for HDD(2) is on master (IDE2). CDROM is > disconnected.. > IThere cannot be a problem with HDD's FAT table as disk > works normally > in 'Safe Mode'. It would not work at all if FAT was > corrupted. I've > done a scandisk and there are no errors. >You need to be aware that Western Digital drives have different jumper settings for Master(i.e. 2 drives on the cable) and Single, the only drive but in the Master position. |