One reason Lisp hasn't caught on: the name
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From: Robert on 18 Jun 2008 17:16 Like it or not, in marketing , the first thing that matters is the name of the programming language. Just ask the marketers at Sun, or Matz. Those were good names. Whoever gave Lisp it's name, I don't think people realize just how much damage he did. It was an astonishingly stupid decision, and it's hard to measure the damage. Makes people think of loser nerds who c-c-can't t-t-talk and can't g-g- get the g-g-girl. Lisp is a disgraceful name, worse than useless. And while SAP somehow succeeded in spite of their dumb name choice, Lisp is more like Nova ( the car marketing campaign , Nova means in spanish "does not go" ). The name choice is certainly one reason the community has struggled to grow. Who came up with that name? What the hell was he thinking? The answer is , he wasn't thinking. Oh, and the name Scheme is better, but not much.
From: Rupert Swarbrick on 18 Jun 2008 17:20 Robert <irishhacker(a)gmail.com> writes: > Like it or not, in marketing , the first thing that matters is the > name of the programming language. > Just ask the marketers at Sun, or Matz. Those were good names. > > Whoever gave Lisp it's name, I don't think people realize just how > much damage he did. It was an astonishingly stupid decision, and it's > hard to measure the damage. > > Makes people think of loser nerds who c-c-can't t-t-talk and can't g-g- > get the g-g-girl. > > Lisp is a disgraceful name, worse than useless. And while SAP somehow > succeeded in spite of their dumb name choice, Lisp is more like Nova > ( the car marketing campaign , Nova means in spanish "does not go" ). > The name choice is certainly one reason the community has struggled to > grow. > > Who came up with that name? What the hell was he thinking? The answer > is , he wasn't thinking. > > Oh, and the name Scheme is better, but not much. One very hungry troll. Do not feed? [And now on my kill-list] Rupert
From: Rob St. Amant on 18 Jun 2008 18:52 Robert <irishhacker(a)gmail.com> writes: > Java definitely benefited by the name choice. Ruby probably also > benefited. Python and Haskell are OK. Scheme is barely OK, actually it > kind of sucks. But the worst choice of programming language is > undoubtedly Lisp. The name hurts. Anyone using a search engine in the mid-90s to find material concerning LaTeX would probaby agree, based on the pages found, that that language holds the prize for the most unfortunate name.
From: "Dimiter "malkia" Stanev" on 18 Jun 2008 19:03 Robert wrote: > Like it or not, in marketing , the first thing that matters is the > name of the programming language. > Just ask the marketers at Sun, or Matz. Those were good names. > > Whoever gave Lisp it's name, I don't think people realize just how > much damage he did. It was an astonishingly stupid decision, and it's > hard to measure the damage. > > Makes people think of loser nerds who c-c-can't t-t-talk and can't g-g- > get the g-g-girl. > > Lisp is a disgraceful name, worse than useless. And while SAP somehow > succeeded in spite of their dumb name choice, Lisp is more like Nova > ( the car marketing campaign , Nova means in spanish "does not go" ). > The name choice is certainly one reason the community has struggled to > grow. > > Who came up with that name? What the hell was he thinking? The answer > is , he wasn't thinking. > > Oh, and the name Scheme is better, but not much. Well yeah, Microsoft is also a dumb name.
From: Paul Donnelly on 18 Jun 2008 20:14
Robert <irishhacker(a)gmail.com> writes: > Like it or not, in marketing , the first thing that matters is the > name of the programming language. > Just ask the marketers at Sun, or Matz. Those were good names. > > Whoever gave Lisp it's name, I don't think people realize just how > much damage he did. It was an astonishingly stupid decision, and it's > hard to measure the damage. > > Makes people think of loser nerds who c-c-can't t-t-talk and can't g-g- > get the g-g-girl. All these computer programmers are saying to themselves, "Oh, I don't want to learn this language: it will turn me into a nerd!" I seriously doubt most of them are as repulsed by the name as you are. Maybe some are even intrigued by a language that is seemingly named after a speech impediment. But it's okay, because even if the name doesn't work we still have the parens, which never fail to send nosy programmers packing. |