From: Ain Vagula on
Curt Akin wrote:
> I give up <g>. When .wps files are associated with OO, I'm asked what
> filter to use after OO opens. I have not yet found the magic one.
>

Don't understand? wps is Microsoft Works file format, Works is a very
poor quality and not widely used application, that was some time ago as
gratis distributed with some brand computers. Why should OO.o open all
possible file formats in the world. Every day every idiot can define new
file format, no one cannot run with them.

ain

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From: "Tony Pursell" on
On 10 Feb 2007 at 20:27, Ain Vagula wrote:

> Curt Akin wrote:
> > I give up <g>. When .wps files are associated with OO, I'm asked what
> > filter to use after OO opens. I have not yet found the magic one.
> >
>
> Don't understand? wps is Microsoft Works file format, Works is a very
> poor quality and not widely used application, that was some time ago as
> gratis distributed with some brand computers.

And stiil do, although Word is often included now, so fewer people produce .wps files.

> Why should OO.o open all
> possible file formats in the world. Every day every idiot can define new
> file format, no one cannot run with them.
>

The standard answer is to load the .wps file into Works and Save As .rtf (Rich Text Format)
then import that into OOo.

Tony

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From: Mathias Bauer on
Ain Vagula schrieb:

> Curt Akin wrote:
>> I give up <g>. When .wps files are associated with OO, I'm asked what
>> filter to use after OO opens. I have not yet found the magic one.
>>
>
> Don't understand? wps is Microsoft Works file format, Works is a very
> poor quality and not widely used application, that was some time ago as
> gratis distributed with some brand computers. Why should OO.o open all
> possible file formats in the world. Every day every idiot can define new
> file format, no one cannot run with them.

Well, seems that some people don't share your opinion. ;-)
Andrew Ziem and Fridrich Strba who already provided us with the nice
WordPerfect filter are currently very busy adding Works text import to
OOo. Please read

http://libwps.sourceforge.net/
http://fridrich.blogspot.com/

Ciao,
Mathias


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From: Ain Vagula on
Mathias Bauer wrote:
> Ain Vagula schrieb:
>
>> Curt Akin wrote:
>>> I give up <g>. When .wps files are associated with OO, I'm asked what
>>> filter to use after OO opens. I have not yet found the magic one.
>>>
>> Don't understand? wps is Microsoft Works file format, Works is a very
>> poor quality and not widely used application, that was some time ago as
>> gratis distributed with some brand computers. Why should OO.o open all
>> possible file formats in the world. Every day every idiot can define new
>> file format, no one cannot run with them.
>
> Well, seems that some people don't share your opinion. ;-)
> Andrew Ziem and Fridrich Strba who already provided us with the nice
> WordPerfect filter are currently very busy adding Works text import to
> OOo. Please read
>
> http://libwps.sourceforge.net/
> http://fridrich.blogspot.com/
>

;)
I was aware of this. I also know that creating perfect filters is very
time consuming task and needs a well-qualified developers. So I dont
well understand this effort, as even MS itself provides an utility to
convert wps to doc:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b9e11e83-f51b-4977-b572-8c042df802c1&displaylang=en
From my point of view creating filters for VERY marginal formats is a
bit strange. But as we all know better how to waste our time - and
sometimes creating such a filter can be a good proof for developer, I'll
avoid to judge. I just thought maybe we have more urgent tasks for such
good developers. :)
In good IT practice, when you'll recieve a file in format you cannot
handle, the best choice is to refer to developer of this format. Solving
office formats handling is one of easiest problems comparing eg. to
cad-formats.

ain

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From: "Jonathon Blake" on
Ain wrote:

> Why should OO.o open all possible file formats in the world.

a) Because the ability to open legacy documents is viewed as a
strength by organizations that are migrating to ODF.

b) What one person considers to be an obscure, insignificant file
format, could be the mission critical format for another person.

> So I don't well understand this effort, as even MS itself provides an utility to convert wps to doc:

a) Every time a document is translated into a different file format,
data is lost. How significant the lost data is, depends upon the
specific filters.

b) That Microsoft provides a wps2doc filter is relevant only to users
of their products. It is irrelevant to users of PerfectOffice, or
users of OOo, or other ODF aware programs.

> From my point of view creating filters for VERY marginal formats is a bit strange.

By that criteria, it is a waste of developer time to put any effort
into supporting anything other than US-ASCII, because all other
character encoding systems are marginal.

> I just thought maybe we have more urgent tasks for such good developers. :)

If you want things that are critical, but AFAIK, aren't being done for OOo:

* A filter to convert to/from Duxbury File Format is probably a more
urgent task than one for converting PerfectOffice
* A filter to convert ODF text to Moon;
* A set of filters to convert ODF text to Grade 0 Braille, Grade 1.0
Braille, Grade 1.5 Braille, Grade 2.0 Braile, Grade 2.5 Braille, Grade
3.0 Braille, and Numeth Code.
* A set of filters to convert ODF text to ASL;

Ideally, OOo would support Moon, Numeth Code, ASL, and the different
grades of Braille, as independent writing systems. Because of the
design parameters of OOo, the only way that will happen, is with a
major rewrite of Stylist.

> the best choice is to refer to developer of this format.

And what makes you think that Microsoft, whoever currently owns
PerfectOffice, or any other office suite file format specification
owner is going to hand over the specifications of their file format to
a competitor?

> Solving office formats handling is one of easiest problems comparing eg. to cad-formats.

If it is easy, then the reason for not including a filter decreases even more.

xan

jonathon
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will not be unjustly penalized for the incompetence of the organization
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