Opening a New Window with no toolbars etc
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From: Adrienne Boswell on 12 May 2008 22:20 Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Anthony Jones" <Ant(a)yadayadayada.com> writing in news:#5TH8m6sIHA.1436(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > "Adrienne Boswell" <arbpen(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9A9B841E123AEarbpenyahoocom(a)69.28.186.121... >> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "anon" <anon(a)anon.com> writing >> in news:5341923F-E55A-431E-9A68-C2319A76EFC0(a)microsoft.com: >> >> > I have a page where the ASP script create a table of links >> > >> > i.e. >> > 1 = NextPage.asp?Item=1 >> > 2 = NextPage.asp?Item=2 >> > >> > etc >> > >> > What I would like to do is open an new window with this link >> > without any toolbars, addressbars, scrollbars and tabs. I would be >> > happy even if the control to limit the appearance of the new window >> > was in the new asp page. >> > >> > Any suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Rob >> > >> >> This is off topic for this group, but with that said, stop wanting >> that. Let the user decide if they want to open a new window. Opening >> new windows, especially without chrome, breaks the back button and >> can be confusing to the user. There is also the issue of memory, >> especially on systems with little memory, and systems that are using >> dial-up. >> > > Well thats a matter of perspective. If you are developing an intranet > style application then for example the opening of new windows to show > a more detailed view of an item displayed in summary in a list of > similar items is quite a common and very natural requirement. > > > The OP never said it was for an intranet, hence my response. Additionally, the OP indicates these links are for pages in a series. New windows should not be opened for links in a series, that's what the back and forward buttons are for, eg. <link rel="next" href="page3.asp"> <link rel="previous" href="page1.asp"> A conforming browser will also display that information in its chrome. A breadcrumb trail would be even better, but not new windows. -- Adrienne Boswell at Home Arbpen Web Site Design Services http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info Please respond to the group so others can share
From: Anthony Jones on 13 May 2008 04:58 "Adrienne Boswell" <arbpen(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns9A9CC4B5DE31Farbpenyahoocom(a)69.28.186.121... > Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Anthony Jones" > <Ant(a)yadayadayada.com> writing in > news:#5TH8m6sIHA.1436(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > > > "Adrienne Boswell" <arbpen(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns9A9B841E123AEarbpenyahoocom(a)69.28.186.121... > >> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "anon" <anon(a)anon.com> writing > >> in news:5341923F-E55A-431E-9A68-C2319A76EFC0(a)microsoft.com: > >> > >> > I have a page where the ASP script create a table of links > >> > > >> > i.e. > >> > 1 = NextPage.asp?Item=1 > >> > 2 = NextPage.asp?Item=2 > >> > > >> > etc > >> > > >> > What I would like to do is open an new window with this link > >> > without any toolbars, addressbars, scrollbars and tabs. I would be > >> > happy even if the control to limit the appearance of the new window > >> > was in the new asp page. > >> > > >> > Any suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Rob > >> > > >> > >> This is off topic for this group, but with that said, stop wanting > >> that. Let the user decide if they want to open a new window. Opening > >> new windows, especially without chrome, breaks the back button and > >> can be confusing to the user. There is also the issue of memory, > >> especially on systems with little memory, and systems that are using > >> dial-up. > >> > > > > Well thats a matter of perspective. If you are developing an intranet > > style application then for example the opening of new windows to show > > a more detailed view of an item displayed in summary in a list of > > similar items is quite a common and very natural requirement. > > > > > > > > The OP never said it was for an intranet, hence my response. As I said its matter of perspective. The OP didn't say it wasn't for an intranet either. What is clear is that the OP wants behaviour commonly found in application oriented pages which do tend to be found more in the intranet 'style' application. > Additionally, the OP indicates these links are for pages in a series. > New windows should not be opened for links in a series, that's what the > back and forward buttons are for, eg. > > <link rel="next" href="page3.asp"> > <link rel="previous" href="page1.asp"> > Again another matter of perspective. You've drawn that conclusion purely from the name of a target page 'nextpage.asp'. However I don't see that requirement in the text which clearly indicates the OP wants to keep the window holding a list of items open and create a new window to display the details of a specific item. > A conforming browser will also display that information in its chrome. > A breadcrumb trail would be even better, but not new windows. > Yet another matter of perspective, why is breadcrumb better? I know in some applications the user may want to open two items and display them side by side for comparison or cut'n'paste content form one to another. -- Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
From: Dave Anderson on 14 May 2008 15:23 Anthony Jones wrote: > window.open(url, "_blank", "toolbar=no, menubar=no, location=no, > scrollbars=no") All of which I can override in my browser. To see this in action, open such a window in Firefox with the [Web Developer] extension installed. Right-click in the "featureless" window and select [Web Developer] --> [Miscellaneous] --> [Show Window Chrome]. I agree with Adrienne. Stop wanting that. Or implement your own "window" with some AJAX and a draggable DIV. -- Dave Anderson Unsolicited commercial email will be read at a cost of $500 per message. Use of this email address implies consent to these terms.
From: Bob Barrows [MVP] on 14 May 2008 15:37 Dave Anderson wrote: > Anthony Jones wrote: >> window.open(url, "_blank", "toolbar=no, menubar=no, location=no, >> scrollbars=no") > > All of which I can override in my browser. .... which is something most intranet application users certainly do not know how to do (at least the ones in the place I'm working - YMMV). That said, I agree with your recommendation to use a div relieving you of the hassles of dealing with users with popup blockers. -- Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.
From: Dave Anderson on 14 May 2008 16:18 "Bob Barrows [MVP]" wrote: >> All of which I can override in my browser. > > ... which is something most intranet application users certainly > do not know how to do (at least the ones in the place I'm working > - YMMV). To which I assert that the OP is not worried about that set of users anyway. Ironically enough, he could get the desired features almost for free with the ASP.NET AJAX Toolkit. It's ironic because ASP.NET questions in here yield mild admonishments to read before posting. http://ajax.asp.net/ajaxtoolkit/ -- Dave Anderson Unsolicited commercial email will be read at a cost of $500 per message. Use of this email address implies consent to these terms.
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