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From: OwenBot on 23 Apr 2008 09:25 On 22 Apr, 16:12, nem <nem(a)nospam> wrote: > OwenBot <cheve...(a)gmail.com> wrote in news: > > Americans, I notice, don't buy American anymore. > It's rather hard to do that when one cannot find a kitchen appliance or a > stereo or a TV that's American-made. Of course, in the UK we still have Roberts radios and Aga ovens: http://www.robertsradio.co.uk/ http://www.aga-rayburn.co.uk/ On the other hand I don't know anyone who owns one.
From: BruceMcF on 23 Apr 2008 10:16 On Apr 23, 3:58 am, zxbruno <zxspectrum...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've lived in New York, New Jersey, Florida and California, and I've > never met someone who was an active 8-bit computer user, be it > Sinclair or Commodore. The C64 was one of the bigger fish in the pond in American home computers in the early 1980's ... but it was a very small pond, compared to today.
From: nem on 23 Apr 2008 12:33 zxbruno <zxspectrum128(a)gmail.com> wrote in news: > Very interesting. But outside Europe, the Spectrum is practically > unknown (and this coming from a Spectrum fanatic). Here in America our experience of Sinclairs is pretty much limited to the TS-1000. I'd hardly even consider that a real computer. My local flea market has a ton of Commodore stuff, though. You'd love it. The only machine I've never seen there was a B-series, but they only sold about 15,000 of those, so what are the odds of seeing one? > But it's not just > the Spectrum that's unknown. I've been living in the U.S. since 95. > I've lived in New York, New Jersey, Florida and California, and I've > never met someone who was an active 8-bit computer user, be it > Sinclair or Commodore. It's easy to find groups of people online, but > not in person. In 13 years I've only met a few people who vaguely > remembered those computers. Most of them remembered the TRS-80 and > Apple 1. I think that the U.S. , being a big country, made it > difficult for 8-bit communities to survive. They tried newsletters, > BBS, etc. but it wasn't enough. I've met some people. There was a dealer at a computer show I went to who was talking about going on BBSs with his C64. And another guy who said his first computer was a TS-1000. > Even if I look online, there's only a > handful of people in the U.S. who follow the cult of 8-bit computing > as enthusiastically as the guys in Europe. I don't think 8-bit > computers had the same cultural, sentimental impact here as they did > in Europe. 8-bits lasted much longer in Europe than in the US. When you think of NTSC C64 games, you mainly think of Broderbund, Synapse, and Epyx. I'd say that here 8-bit computers reached their zenith in 1982 and then started to give way to 16-bits. By 1987, PCs, Amigas, and Macs were dominate. Of course the C64 was still going fairly strong. Maniac Mansion and Zak McKracken were from that time period. And the C64 port of the Simpsons arcade game was done in 1991. That was pretty good, but there never was a true NTSC equivalent of say, Mayhem in Monsterland.
From: Chris Young on 23 Apr 2008 14:06 On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:25:32 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin' to MC OwenBot: > Of course, in the UK we still have Roberts radios and Aga ovens: > > http://www.robertsradio.co.uk/ > http://www.aga-rayburn.co.uk/ > > On the other hand I don't know anyone who owns one. I have a Roberts radio (actually it's a clock alarm radio thingy, but same difference), and their DAB units are pretty popular by all accounts. On the other hand, this is the first I've heard of Aga ovens. Our games industry is still pretty big though (he says, desperately trying to steer things back on topic) Chris -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Unsatisfactory Software - "because it is" | | http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk | | Your Sinclair: A Celebration | +- http://www.yoursinclair.co.uk -----------+ DISCLAIMER: I may be making all this stuff up again.
From: Guesser on 23 Apr 2008 15:16
Chris Young wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:25:32 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin' > to MC OwenBot: > >> Of course, in the UK we still have Roberts radios and Aga ovens: >> >> http://www.robertsradio.co.uk/ >> http://www.aga-rayburn.co.uk/ >> >> On the other hand I don't know anyone who owns one. > > I have a Roberts radio (actually it's a clock alarm radio thingy, but > same difference), and their DAB units are pretty popular by all > accounts. > > On the other hand, this is the first I've heard of Aga ovens. > > Our games industry is still pretty big though (he says, desperately > trying to steer things back on topic) > > Chris > > yup, I've got a Roberts. It's a travel radio one, FM, MW, LW, SW |