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From: donovan jeffrey j on 1 Mar 2010 09:06
Greetings

I had several of these on my primary MX this weekend and one just
popped up. Can someone explain where this Insufficient system storage
is ?
both mail queues are empty, and DF shows < 20% on the reporting system.

Out: 220 mx2.beth.k12.pa.us ESMTP Postfix
In: EHLO mx1.beth.k12.pa.us
Out: 250-mx2.beth.k12.pa.us
Out: 250-PIPELINING
Out: 250-SIZE 10240000
Out: 250-ETRN
Out: 250 8BITMIME
In: MAIL FROM:<bo-bu7vmghbprcxt5axe5vzqabvadpk5k(a)b.e.jcrew.com>
SIZE=11687
BODY=8BITMIME
Out: 452 Insufficient system storage
In: RCPT TO:<someuser(a)beth.k12.pa.us>
Out: 503 Error: need MAIL command
In: DATA
Out: 503 Error: need RCPT command
In: RSET
Out: 250 Ok
In: QUIT
Out: 221 Bye
From: donovan jeffrey j on 2 Mar 2010 19:26

On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:56 AM, lst_hoe02(a)kwsoft.de wrote:

> Zitat von donovan jeffrey j <donovan(a)beth.k12.pa.us>:
>
>> Greetings
>>
>> I had several of these on my primary MX this weekend and one just
>> popped up. Can someone explain where this Insufficient system
>> storage is ?
>> both mail queues are empty, and DF shows < 20% on the reporting
>> system.
>>
>> Out: 220 mx2.beth.k12.pa.us ESMTP Postfix
>> In: EHLO mx1.beth.k12.pa.us
>> Out: 250-mx2.beth.k12.pa.us
>> Out: 250-PIPELINING
>> Out: 250-SIZE 10240000
>> Out: 250-ETRN
>> Out: 250 8BITMIME
>> In: MAIL FROM:<bo-bu7vmghbprcxt5axe5vzqabvadpk5k(a)b.e.jcrew.com>
>> SIZE=11687
>> BODY=8BITMIME
>> Out: 452 Insufficient system storage
>> In: RCPT TO:<someuser(a)beth.k12.pa.us>
>> Out: 503 Error: need MAIL command
>> In: DATA
>> Out: 503 Error: need RCPT command
>> In: RSET
>> Out: 250 Ok
>> In: QUIT
>> Out: 221 Bye
>
> Have a look for "queue_minfree" parameter in main.cf. The default
> for Postfix 2.1 and later is 1,5*message_size_limit which can be
> more than your 20% free if the filesystem the queues reside is
> rather small.
>
> Regards
>
> Andreas
>


greetings

thanks for the reply

queue_minfree = 0

this is default on all my systems.

MX1
/dev/disk1s3 77G 51G 26G 66% /

MX2
/dev/disk0s3 234G 46G 187G 20% /


here is another example;

Transcript of session follows.

Out: 220 mx1.beth.k12.pa.us ESMTP Postfix
In: EHLO MX2.beth.k12.pa.us
Out: 250-mx1.beth.k12.pa.us
Out: 250-PIPELINING
Out: 250-SIZE 10240000
Out: 250-ETRN
Out: 250 8BITMIME
In: MAIL FROM:<noreply(a)somesite.com> SIZE=2878 BODY=8BITMIME
Out: 452 Insufficient system storage
In: RCPT TO:<user(a)bethsd.org>
Out: 503 Error: need MAIL command
In: DATA
Out: 503 Error: need RCPT command
In: RSET
Out: 250 Ok
In: QUIT
Out: 221 Bye

mx2 picks up and sends it to mx1 for AV scan. i can see MX1 has a
smaller drive, but it's just amavis scanning and relay. No real big
space required. System seems to be fine, but these errors are eluding
me.
any insight would be helpful.
postconf available if need be,.

-j

From: "Daniel V. Reinhardt" on 2 Mar 2010 19:31
> this is default on all my systems.

>
> MX1
> /dev/disk1s3 77G 51G 26G 66% /
>
> MX2
> /dev/disk0s3 234G 46G 187G 20% /
>
>

Can you show the partitioning of these systems?

Thanks

Daniel Reinhardt
Website: www.cryptodan.com
Email:
cryptodan(a)yahoo.com





From: donovan jeffrey j on 2 Mar 2010 19:36

On Mar 2, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote:

>> this is default on all my systems.
>
>>
>> MX1
>> /dev/disk1s3 77G 51G 26G 66% /
>>
>> MX2
>> /dev/disk0s3 234G 46G 187G 20% /
>>
>>
>
> Can you show the partitioning of these systems?
>
> Thanks


thats all i have,.. no partitions.


>>
>> MX1

Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/disk1s3 77G 51G 26G 66% /
devfs 97K 97K 0B 100% /dev
fdesc 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
<volfs> 512K 512K 0B 100% /.vol
automount -nsl [227] 0B 0B 0B 100% /Network
automount -fstab [233] 0B 0B 0B 100% /automount/
Servers
automount -static [233] 0B 0B 0B 100% /automount/static
/dev/disk0s3 234G 22G 211G 10% /Volumes/SSHD2

>>
>> MX2

Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/disk0s3 234G 46G 187G 20% /
devfs 104K 104K 0B 100% /dev
fdesc 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
<volfs> 512K 512K 0B 100% /.vol
/dev/disk1s3 172G 431M 172G 0% /Volumes/mailHD
/dev/disk2s10 172G 46G 127G 26% /Volumes/backup2
automount -nsl [213] 0B 0B 0B 100% /Network
automount -fstab [226] 0B 0B 0B 100% /automount/
Servers
automount -static [226] 0B 0B 0B 100% /automount/static

From: Wietse Venema on 2 Mar 2010 21:03
donovan jeffrey j:
>
> On Mar 2, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote:
>
> >> this is default on all my systems.
> >
> >>
> >> MX1
> >> /dev/disk1s3 77G 51G 26G 66% /
> >>
> >> MX2
> >> /dev/disk0s3 234G 46G 187G 20% /
> >>
> >>

It may be worthwhile to run the Postfix fsspace test program.

- Download any Postfix source code that compiles on your system.

- cd into the source tree, then execute the following commands:

make makefiles
cd src/util
make fsspace
./fsspace /var/spool/postfix

and report if the numbers look wrong.

Postfix uses the fsspace routine to determine the amount of
free space in the queue file system.

Wietse

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