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From: Todd Allcock on 30 Apr 2008 11:12
At 30 Apr 2008 13:37:57 +0200 Steffo wrote:
> My settings are correct: I've deleted and re-configured the POP Hotmail
> on my device.
> I can receive with no problems but when I reply or write a new mail, it
> goes in outbox, it's trying to send and then it says it couldn't be sent.
> I am not roaming right now and I have a great signal, my service provider
> is Bluewin Switzerland, but I tried Vodafone UK, TIM Italy, SFR France
with
> the same result.
> When I asked them if they are blocking port 25 outgoing mail, they didn't
> know what I was talking about, they passed the technical department and
> back to customer service: nobody knew what I was asking.


Does the device have WiFi? Can you send over WiFi to confirm the settings
are correct?

And are you positive you've checked the "Use SSL for Outgoing mail" box
(it's hard to find- it's on a page that only displays if you check the "Use
Separate Settings for Outgoing" box in the e-mail account setup options.)


From: Steffo on 30 Apr 2008 19:50
Yes Todd, I did.
And in that same page, I wrote again the user name and the password, nothing
in the domain, ticked box of save password and ticked box of require SSL for
outgoing mail.
Should I try something different in that page?
By the way, I don't have WiFi in the device and I can send when I'm
connected to my PC, that's really strange considering I'm using Hotmail
pop/smtp in OE.
Does this give you a new clue?
I hope so because I'm speechless.........
Thanks again for your help,
Steffo

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 30 Apr 2008 13:37:57 +0200 Steffo wrote:
>> My settings are correct: I've deleted and re-configured the POP
>> Hotmail on my device.
>> I can receive with no problems but when I reply or write a new mail,
>> it goes in outbox, it's trying to send and then it says it couldn't
>> be sent. I am not roaming right now and I have a great signal, my
>> service provider is Bluewin Switzerland, but I tried Vodafone UK,
>> TIM Italy, SFR France with the same result.
>> When I asked them if they are blocking port 25 outgoing mail, they
>> didn't know what I was talking about, they passed the technical
>> department and back to customer service: nobody knew what I was
>> asking.
>
>
> Does the device have WiFi? Can you send over WiFi to confirm the
> settings are correct?
>
> And are you positive you've checked the "Use SSL for Outgoing mail"
> box (it's hard to find- it's on a page that only displays if you
> check the "Use Separate Settings for Outgoing" box in the e-mail
> account setup options.)


From: Todd Allcock on 1 May 2008 00:16

"Steffo" <steffo(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:481905be_1(a)news.bluewin.ch...
> Yes Todd, I did.
> And in that same page, I wrote again the user name and the password,
> nothing in the domain, ticked box of save password and ticked box of
> require SSL for outgoing mail.
> Should I try something different in that page?
> By the way, I don't have WiFi in the device and I can send when I'm
> connected to my PC, that's really strange considering I'm using Hotmail
> pop/smtp in OE.
> Does this give you a new clue?
> I hope so because I'm speechless.........
> Thanks again for your help,
> Steffo

If you can send from the device when it's connected to the PC, then your
settings are fine. I have to believe at this point, that your mobile
operator blocks port 25, as Bev Howard suggested. Even when roaming in
other countries, you still connect through your home operator's access
point, so the fact that it's not working when roaming doesn't mean much
(unless you're using different SIMs when you travel.)

There really isn't much you can do if your operator is blocking sent mail,
except complain to them, or use webmail (m.msn.com or mobile.live.com gives
you access to PDA formatted Hotmail web pages.)

Good luck!



From: Yoda Morganstern on 1 May 2008 12:29
> There really isn't much you can do if your operator is blocking sent
> mail, except complain to them, or use webmail (m.msn.com or
> mobile.live.com gives you access to PDA formatted Hotmail web pages.)
>
> Good luck!

With gmail and gmx free..its amazing that people still pay MSN and yahoo
for pop mail...
From: Todd Allcock on 1 May 2008 12:56

"Yoda Morganstern" <yoda4077(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A917F1054ECBmorgaineavalonnet(a)207.115.33.102...
>> There really isn't much you can do if your operator is blocking sent
>> mail, except complain to them, or use webmail (m.msn.com or
>> mobile.live.com gives you access to PDA formatted Hotmail web pages.)
>>
>> Good luck!
>
> With gmail and gmx free..its amazing that people still pay MSN and yahoo
> for pop mail...

If you're willing to put up with your techie friends snickering behind your
back, you can also use AOL as I do. Once the king of non-standard
proprietary overpriced dial-up internet, they now offer completely free IMAP
accounts.

GMail is fine as well, but their POP and IMAP implementation was
traditionally flakey on Windows Mobile devices.

Also, to be fair, Microsoft does intend to make POP access available on free
Hotmail/Live accounts later this year, likely to remain competitive with
GMail.






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