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From: Steffo on 2 May 2008 09:54
Dear Todd (and the ones interested.....),

I've solved the mystery: it's the outgoing mail server setting.
In my case (my ISP is Bluewin owned my mobile phone company Swisscom), the
outgoing mail server is <mail.bluewin.ch> (and not smtp.live.com).
The Customer Service also told me, just as an info, that even Vodafone only
supports sending using their own SMTP server (send.vodafone.net).
It took a week for them to come up with this answer and in the meantime I'm
sorry if I bothered you guys, but I thought of posting this because it could
be useful to other readers.

Take care and best regards,

Steffo;-) ... happy now!


Todd Allcock wrote:
> "Steffo" <steffo(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:481905be_1(a)news.bluewin.ch...
>> Yes Todd, I did.
>> And in that same page, I wrote again the user name and the password,
>> nothing in the domain, ticked box of save password and ticked box of
>> require SSL for outgoing mail.
>> Should I try something different in that page?
>> By the way, I don't have WiFi in the device and I can send when I'm
>> connected to my PC, that's really strange considering I'm using
>> Hotmail pop/smtp in OE.
>> Does this give you a new clue?
>> I hope so because I'm speechless.........
>> Thanks again for your help,
>> Steffo
>
> If you can send from the device when it's connected to the PC, then
> your settings are fine. I have to believe at this point, that your
> mobile operator blocks port 25, as Bev Howard suggested. Even when
> roaming in other countries, you still connect through your home
> operator's access point, so the fact that it's not working when
> roaming doesn't mean much (unless you're using different SIMs when
> you travel.)
>
> There really isn't much you can do if your operator is blocking sent
> mail, except complain to them, or use webmail (m.msn.com or
> mobile.live.com gives you access to PDA formatted Hotmail web pages.)
>
> Good luck!



From: William on 2 May 2008 18:39
On 2 May, 14:54, "Steffo" <ste...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> I've solved the mystery: it's the outgoing mail server setting.
> In my case (my ISP is Bluewin owned my mobile phone company Swisscom), the
> outgoing mail server is <mail.bluewin.ch> (and not smtp.live.com).
> The Customer Service also told me, just as an info, that even Vodafone only
> supports sending using their own SMTP server (send.vodafone.net).

Which is pretty much what Beverley told you in the first response to
your OP.
(http://www.bevhoward.com/bhhpj.htm#SMTP)

"standard behaviour for almost all SMTP servers is to refuse to send
any email that is not handed to it from an internet connection related
to the ISP service which owns the server"

"The solution is to find the SMTP server address for each method that
you use to connect".

"To find each address for these servers, you will need to search the
web pages for these providers or call their tech support lines"

--
WH
From: Thurman on 3 May 2008 13:45

"Yoda Morganstern" <yoda4077(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A917F1054ECBmorgaineavalonnet(a)207.115.33.102...
>> There really isn't much you can do if your operator is blocking sent
>> mail, except complain to them, or use webmail (m.msn.com or
>> mobile.live.com gives you access to PDA formatted Hotmail web pages.)
>>
> With gmail and gmx free..its amazing that people still pay MSN and yahoo
> for pop mail...

I switched Outlook from Charter POP email to FREE Yahoo email (or was it
$20/yr?).

It works fine, but occasionally gets fussy because Outlook is not the
default email.


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