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From: Steffo on 28 Apr 2008 17:37
I'm trying to set up my Hotmail account in my Pocket PC iPAQ HP 6515.
I can receive all emails but when I reply or create a new email, I get an
error saying my settings are not correct or I have no signal.
I also have another POP email account (from my server provider Bluewin) in
there and it works just fine.
I think the problem is in the port settings: I cannot find where to set
them, even if I've heard port 25 for outgoing mail might be blocked to avoid
spam.
By the way, I'm also using Outlook Express with my PC and I can perfectly
use Hotmail as a
POP account as well as in the OE interface.
I am a Hotmail Plus subscriber.
Please, I'd be really happy to try all suggestions.
Thank you and best regards.
Steffo


From: Beverly Howard on 29 Apr 2008 01:42
take a look at http://www.bevhoward.com/bhhpj.htm#SMTP

Beverly Howard
From: Steffo on 29 Apr 2008 11:16
That is really disappointing now that Hotmail can be handled with pop/smtp,
too bad they are using the port 25 for the outgoing mail!
Can't they change that knowing the problem?
Anyway Beverly, thank you very much for your help.
By the way, do you know of a good PPC program for "push" Hotmail?
I'm trying the PXP (www.pocketxpress.com) but it's very slow downloading and
it gets stuck all the times, forcing me to reboot several times a day.
On the other hand, sending is very fast with no problem.
Thanks again, I'm looking forward to hearing from you very soon.
Regards,
Steff

Beverly Howard wrote:
> take a look at http://www.bevhoward.com/bhhpj.htm#SMTP
>
> Beverly Howard


From: Todd Allcock on 29 Apr 2008 17:16

"Steffo" <steffo(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:48173bd2$1_3(a)news.bluewin.ch...
> That is really disappointing now that Hotmail can be handled with
> pop/smtp, too bad they are using the port 25 for the outgoing mail!
> Can't they change that knowing the problem?

My e-mail providers use port 25, and it's never been a problem for me. Most
providers let authenticated SMTP through on 25, and Hotmail requires
authentication.

The real problem Bev discussed is typically with "home" broadband ISPs' own
mail servers. They typically reject e-mail that isn't sent from their own
network (i.e. trying to send an e-mail from your mobile phone's network
through a fixed DSL/cable ISP's server.) "Portable" e-mail servers, like
AOL, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc. are generally not a problem, since they don't have
a "home network" to connect to.

Are you POSITIVE your settings are correct? Specifically are the "use
authentication" and "SSL" boxes in the messaging settings for that account
checked?

Per Microsoft:
"Our POP service requires that you use Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) with the
POP and SMTP connection and use SMTP authentication. This is to ensure that
your email address and password are not subject to tampering. The settings
are the following:

a.. POP: pop3.live.com (port 995)
b.. SMTP: smtp.live.com (port 25)
a.. Note: make sure you check the box that indicates that your outgoing
server requires authentication (in most mail clients this is not checked by
default).
c.. Username: your full email address
d.. Password: your Windows Live ID password
This means that a Hotmail Plus account will now allow users of email clients
such as Eudora, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail, as well as most mobile devices
including the Apple iPhone, will now be able to access their Hotmail
accounts. Outlook and Windows Live Mail already offer access to Hotmail with
previous http protocol."



From: Steffo on 30 Apr 2008 07:37
My settings are correct: I've deleted and re-configured the POP Hotmail on
my device.
I can receive with no problems but when I reply or write a new mail, it goes
in outbox, it's trying to send and then it says it couldn't be sent.
I am not roaming right now and I have a great signal, my service provider is
Bluewin Switzerland, but I tried Vodafone UK, TIM Italy, SFR France with the
same result.
When I asked them if they are blocking port 25 outgoing mail, they didn't
know what I was talking about, they passed the technical department and back
to customer service: nobody knew what I was asking.


Todd Allcock wrote:
> "Steffo" <steffo(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:48173bd2$1_3(a)news.bluewin.ch...
>> That is really disappointing now that Hotmail can be handled with
>> pop/smtp, too bad they are using the port 25 for the outgoing mail!
>> Can't they change that knowing the problem?
>
> My e-mail providers use port 25, and it's never been a problem for
> me. Most providers let authenticated SMTP through on 25, and Hotmail
> requires authentication.
>
> The real problem Bev discussed is typically with "home" broadband
> ISPs' own mail servers. They typically reject e-mail that isn't sent
> from their own network (i.e. trying to send an e-mail from your
> mobile phone's network through a fixed DSL/cable ISP's server.) "Portable"
> e-mail servers, like AOL, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc. are
> generally not a problem, since they don't have a "home network" to
> connect to.
> Are you POSITIVE your settings are correct? Specifically are the "use
> authentication" and "SSL" boxes in the messaging settings for that
> account checked?
>
> Per Microsoft:
> "Our POP service requires that you use Secure Sockets Layer (SSL)
> with the POP and SMTP connection and use SMTP authentication. This is
> to ensure that your email address and password are not subject to
> tampering. The settings are the following:
>
> a.. POP: pop3.live.com (port 995)
> b.. SMTP: smtp.live.com (port 25)
> a.. Note: make sure you check the box that indicates that your
> outgoing server requires authentication (in most mail clients this is
> not checked by default).
> c.. Username: your full email address
> d.. Password: your Windows Live ID password
> This means that a Hotmail Plus account will now allow users of email
> clients such as Eudora, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail, as well as most
> mobile devices including the Apple iPhone, will now be able to access
> their Hotmail accounts. Outlook and Windows Live Mail already offer
> access to Hotmail with previous http protocol."


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