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From: jameshanley39 on 29 Mar 2008 17:31
On 28 Mar, 17:32, kony <s...(a)spam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:13:50 -0700 (PDT),
> "jameshanle...(a)yahoo.co.uk" <jameshanle...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 27 Mar, 19:19, kony <s...(a)spam.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT),
> >> "jameshanle...(a)yahoo.co.uk" <jameshanle...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >> >I have actually found that those noises I don't like can continue in
> >> >my ears after the thing is switched off..
>
> >> I'm starting to wonder if these noises ever came from the
> >> computer then? A very quiet PC is not a problem to any sane
> >> person.
>
> >It shouldn`t be heard to imagine that some people react differently to
> >sounds, than you do.
>
> >You are coming up with ridiculous remarks to try to justify your
> >narrow perspective.
>
> Not at all, noise is a fact of life. Everything around a
> person can make some. A leaf blowing in the wind, a blade
> of grass bending, a bird singing. It is a folly to think
> the world should be silent for any one person, rather the
> reasonable expectation is no noise of excessive volume or
> especially irritating tone.

Saying "noise is a fact of life" sounds patronizing.. like much you
have written.

I could go into detail but people who know, unfortunately know. And
people that don`t know, might understand. But those that do not even
understand that some people are sensititive to certain types of
noises, and others are not, will never understand.

<snip>
> You, too, make noise when you move around. Maybe people who
> want silence should first focus on noise they make. Don't
> move, don't breathe, don't bat an eyelid? Seems pretty
> crazy? Even moreso when, like I already wrote, a fan cooled
> system isn't necessarily even audible at all to the user.
>

more patronizing talk.



> >> Modern systems just create more
> >> heat, or if choosing something with lower performance to get
> >> less heat one might think about using an old system instead
> >> of junking a new one by letting it overheat long term, AND
> >> junking the old system they could've reused. One way is
> >> cheap, easy, environmentally friendly. The other isn't.
>
> >Old systems were not fanless either.
>
> But they can be cooled to an inaudible noise level with a
> single fan.
>

You know what..

since you said about adding a fan to the VIA EPIA..

MAYBE, I will "hand it to you" that if you have a machine, that runs
fine fanlessly outside of a case.

Then you could put it in a case and add a fan that runs at a level
that is inaudible to the person.


<snip>
>
> >Do you have in mind some DIY job, replacing the fan with one you deem
> >quiet. I would probably be able to hear it.
>
> This thread wasn't about you.

The point is, that you don`t know how sensitive this person`s hearing
is, or how irritated he gets by noise, and what type of noise. You
don`t know his hearing any more than you know mine. Or anybody else
searching around looking for tips about quiet computers.

Fortunately, he asked about a fanless computer, so you don`t need to
know. (and better, neither does he!)

> I was willing to spend a bit
> of time being productive but instead my time was spent
> addressing your illogical arguments. So you had your chance
> and wasted it.-

Well.. too late. You already suggested that you did a DIY job. And you
mentioned about the RPM of the fan being 400 or 800.

I know I helped him where I can (largely with the wikipedia list of
intel core duo processors) ..

And you helped him where you can.

A thread is not just or even about an individual.
It is about a problem.. Posted by an individual.
And that problem is relevant to the OP, but may be relevant to many
individuals lurking , searching, reading or writing.

I am all for contributing or answering a person ... The OP and then
anybody else.

Generally, the great netiquette on usenet, is that there is nothing
immoral about going on a tangent, if people have contributed to
addressing the OP`s problem directly, and responded directly to the
OP.. and of course he can reply, requesting clarification or giving
contributions of his own, e.t.c. Tangents don`t have to be to the
detriment of the OP.
If you can further help the OP, or rather, address the OP`s problem
(for the benefit of the OP and others) then please do. I`m only too
happy.

And if a contribution is towards something on a tangent, then that`s
not necessarily a negative thing, and it`s often a good thing too.

It was one of your contributions in the past, about ULV processors,
that helped me thelp the OP.. And perhaps one of Paul`s posts in the
past, that alerted me to the wikipedia list.. (though he usually uses
intel processorfinder - which is useful to the OP too).

http://processorfinder.intel.com/

These may have been directly related to a problem, or a tangent, when
posted. But they were directly relevant here. Information relevant
to one thread is relevant to another e.t.c. That is the/a beauty of
usenet.


From: kony on 29 Mar 2008 21:15
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:31:34 -0700 (PDT),
"jameshanley39(a)yahoo.co.uk" <jameshanley39(a)yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:


>more patronizing talk.


Know what? We're both entitled to have different opinions
about noise, fanless systems, etc. There's no point in
either of us wasting time on it any longer.
From: ~misfit~ on 30 Mar 2008 06:02
Somewhere on teh intarweb "kony" typed:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT),
> "jameshanley39(a)yahoo.co.uk" <jameshanley39(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> I have actually found that those noises I don't like can continue in
>> my ears after the thing is switched off..
>
> I'm starting to wonder if these noises ever came from the
> computer then?

LOL. Kony, all I see is a bunch of your posts, thought you were having a
conversation with yourself. Then I had a look and figured maybe I'd
killfiled this guy at some stage. Now I see why. :-)

Have fun.
--
Shaun.


From: jameshanley39 on 30 Mar 2008 11:46
On 30 Mar, 11:02, "~misfit~" <misfit6...(a)hooya.com.au> wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarweb "kony" typed:
>
> > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT),
> > "jameshanle...(a)yahoo.co.uk" <jameshanle...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> I have actually found that those noises I don't like can continue in
> >> my ears after the thing is switched off..
>
> > I'm starting to wonder if these noises ever came from the
> > computer then?
>
> LOL. Kony, all I see is a bunch of your posts, thought you were having a
> conversation with yourself. Then I had a look and figured maybe I'd
> killfiled this guy at some stage. Now I see why. :-)
>
> Have fun.
> --
> Shaun.


Well you're the "~misfit~". Why don't you killfile yourself "?"


From: kony on 30 Mar 2008 19:36
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:02:42 +1300, "~misfit~"
<misfit61nz(a)hooya.com.au> wrote:

>Somewhere on teh intarweb "kony" typed:
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT),
>> "jameshanley39(a)yahoo.co.uk" <jameshanley39(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> I have actually found that those noises I don't like can continue in
>>> my ears after the thing is switched off..
>>
>> I'm starting to wonder if these noises ever came from the
>> computer then?
>
>LOL. Kony, all I see is a bunch of your posts, thought you were having a
>conversation with yourself. Then I had a look and figured maybe I'd
>killfiled this guy at some stage. Now I see why. :-)
>
>Have fun.


You have actually found that those texts you don't like can
continue in your sight even after the source is killfiled
off. ;-)

The noise is obviously driving him mad.
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