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From: Ghostinz on 28 Aug 2005 18:05
I created a Pop Up menu in Fireworks. I then exported it to a template page in
Dreamweaver. All the links work fine. If I display the page using IE, when I
drag my mouse over the menu, I get the little hand with the finger indicating
an active link. If I use Firefox, I just get a line for the cursor. I can still
click on the link and get taken to that page, but what am I missing. Is it a
problem with Firefox? or do I need to load something different for Firefox to
view the Pop Up menu correctly.


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From: Murray *TMM* on 28 Aug 2005 18:47
Wanna know the truth about those menus? Read these -

http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php
http://apptools.com/rants/menus.php


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"Ghostinz" <webforumsuser(a)macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>I created a Pop Up menu in Fireworks. I then exported it to a template page
>in
> Dreamweaver. All the links work fine. If I display the page using IE, when
> I
> drag my mouse over the menu, I get the little hand with the finger
> indicating
> an active link. If I use Firefox, I just get a line for the cursor. I can
> still
> click on the link and get taken to that page, but what am I missing. Is it
> a
> problem with Firefox? or do I need to load something different for Firefox
> to
> view the Pop Up menu correctly.
>
>
> Inappropriate post?
> If so, Red Flag it!
>
>
>
>


From: Matt on 31 Aug 2005 20:00
Murray *TMM* wrote:
> Wanna know the truth about those menus? Read these -
>
> http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php
> http://apptools.com/rants/menus.php
>
>
Those articles are not 100% correct. It is possible to create popup
menus without the use of JavaScript.

Nick Rigby wrote a fantastic article for A List Apart on creating pure
CSS drop downs that are functional in both FF and IE. At the Studio 8
launch seminar in Melbourne Jennifer Taylor mentioned that this feature
will be available in the upcoming release of Fireworks but how exactly
this will work I'm not sure.

In the meantime it is not difficult creating your own from scratch.

Rigby's article can be found at:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/


Cheers
-Matt
From: Al Sparber- PVII on 31 Aug 2005 20:56
"Matt" <sasco(a)iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Murray *TMM* wrote:
>> Wanna know the truth about those menus? Read these -
>>
>> http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php
>> http://apptools.com/rants/menus.php
>>
>>
> Those articles are not 100% correct. It is possible to create popup
> menus without the use of JavaScript.
>
> Nick Rigby wrote a fantastic article for A List Apart on creating pure
> CSS drop downs that are functional in both FF and IE.

Not accurate. CSS is not a behavioral language though it has been hacked
to simulate certain behaviors in modern browsers that support the hover
pseudoclass on elements other than links. IE does not support this yet
and so you are faced with having to scruipt the behavior for the browser
sitting on the desktops of the overwhelming majority of worldwide users.
Those so -called "pure" CSS menus, if deployed correctly, are largely
unusable beyond a single level.

> At the Studio 8 launch seminar in Melbourne Jennifer Taylor mentioned
> that this feature will be available in the upcoming release of
> Fireworks but how exactly this will work I'm not sure.

The menu that will ship in Fireworks 8 is very misleadingly billed as a
CSS menu. It's a rather inefficient technique and we'll be publishing a
thorough (and honest) review of it once Fireworks 8 ships.


> In the meantime it is not difficult creating your own from scratch.
>
> Rigby's article can be found at:
> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/

The menu must use JavaScript to work in the majority of browsers.
Analyze it quite thoroughly - all is not as it seems :-)


--
Al Sparber
PVII
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"Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling
mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs
are scheduled for next Tuesday".


From: Murray *TMM* on 31 Aug 2005 21:15
> Those articles are not 100% correct. It is possible to create popup menus
> without the use of JavaScript.

Those articles do not imply that it is not possible.

> At the Studio 8 launch seminar in Melbourne Jennifer Taylor mentioned that
> this feature will be available in the upcoming release of Fireworks but
> how exactly this will work I'm not sure.

I am, and it is way better, but still not perfect - and it still relies on
the use of js, but not in the same way that the nasty predecessors did by
any means. However, FW8 is not available yet.

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"Matt" <sasco(a)iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Murray *TMM* wrote:
>> Wanna know the truth about those menus? Read these -
>>
>> http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php
>> http://apptools.com/rants/menus.php
>>
>>
> Those articles are not 100% correct. It is possible to create popup menus
> without the use of JavaScript.
>
> Nick Rigby wrote a fantastic article for A List Apart on creating pure CSS
> drop downs that are functional in both FF and IE. At the Studio 8 launch
> seminar in Melbourne Jennifer Taylor mentioned that this feature will be
> available in the upcoming release of Fireworks but how exactly this will
> work I'm not sure.
>
> In the meantime it is not difficult creating your own from scratch.
>
> Rigby's article can be found at:
> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/
>
>
> Cheers
> -Matt


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