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From: Rakesh on 29 Jun 2008 16:12
Hi -
I am trying to port some applications from Netbeans 6.1 to Eclipse
3.4 Ganymede. I got the following list of compilation errors, similar
to the following -

import com.sun.rave.web.ui.appbase.AbstractRequestBean;

The import com.sun.rave cannot be resolved. I am trying to figure out
the appropriate JAR file that needs to be added to the build path. Can
you please suggest the right way of doing this.

Thanks.
From: Rakesh on 2 Jul 2008 11:01
On Jun 29, 4:42 pm, Arne Vajhøj <a...(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> Rakesh wrote:
> > I am trying to port some applications from Netbeans 6.1 to Eclipse
> > 3.4Ganymede. I got the following list of compilation errors, similar
> > to the following -
>
> > import com.sun.rave.web.ui.appbase.AbstractRequestBean;
>
> > The import com.sun.rave cannot be resolved. I am trying to figure out
> > the appropriate JAR file that needs to be added to the build path. Can
> > you please suggest the right way of doing this.
>
> As the name implies then this is a SUN implementation specific class.
>
> Using that makes the application non portable.
>
> If you want to proceed then you need to find the proper jar file. It
> seems as if SUN Project Rave is not separate downloadble. So you will
> need to look in the NB tree after the jar file.
>
> jar tvf foobar.jar | grep com.sun.rave.web.ui.appbase.AbstractRequestBean
>
> Arne

Surprisingly, I grepped for this in the list of jar files in
netbeans-6.1 (on Linux, but that should not matter I guess) and could
not find the reference to com/sun/rave (let alone the actual class).

From: Rakesh on 2 Jul 2008 11:04
On Jun 30, 10:07 am, David Segall <da...(a)address.invalid> wrote:
> Rakesh <rakesh.use...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >Hi -
> > I am trying to port some applications from Netbeans 6.1 to Eclipse
> >3.4Ganymede. I got the following list of compilation errors, similar
> >to the following -
>
> >import com.sun.rave.web.ui.appbase.AbstractRequestBean;
>
> >The import com.sun.rave cannot be resolved. I am trying to figure out
> >the appropriate JAR file that needs to be added to the build path. Can
> >you please suggest the right way of doing this.
>
> I believe that com.sun.rave contains the components used by the
> NetBeans Visual Web Developer. There are some standard JSF components
> in the Visual Web palette but most are derived from Java Studio
> Creator. If you did not use the Visual Web Designer but selected
> "Visual Web JavaServer Faces" instead of "JavaServer Faces" as the
> framework when creating your project you can probably back out by
> re-creating your JSF pages in NetBeans with some cut and paste. If you
> did use the Visual Web Designer then, even if a solution to your
> problem exists, you need some expert help. Try the nbusers mailing
> list <http://www.netbeans.org/community/lists/top.html>.

Thanks David. I will follow this one-up in the nb question.

A slightly more generic question - What are some of the best toolkits
available for doing Web Development.
JSF looks like a huge overkill to me, with the myriad of code going
underneath.

I recently explored Apache Wicket. It looks very nice to me and
speeding up the development. Anyone has any experiences with the
same / encountered limitations with the same. Thanks.
From: conrad on 2 Jul 2008 11:15
Rakesh wrote:
> A slightly more generic question - What are some of the best toolkits
> available for doing Web Development.
> JSF looks like a huge overkill to me, with the myriad of code going
> underneath.

"Overkill" is such a great criticism - it doesn't require objective
measurement, explanation of "enoughkill" or evidence that the needs it
does fill are not widespread. You simply wave your magic pejorative
and dismiss all the considerable value of the JSF framework with a
sneer. "Overkill" - well, let's not go there then.

So before I refute your assertion that JSF is "overkill", much less
"huge overkill", please tell us what is appropriate "enoughkill"?

What evidence do you have that the need for the power of JSF is not
widespread?

How well do you know JSF, to determine that it is such a "huge
overkill"?

I've been learning JSF, and in its simplest use cases I find it no
more difficult than regular JSP programming with EL and JSTL. With
barely more effort than that, I get components that do all sorts of
things that would be very, very difficult for me to recapitulate, like
tree displays and declarative connection to business logic. JSF
provides "huge" functionality with "not huge" effort.

Even better, you can use libraries like Tobago on top of JSF and get
prepackaged functionality that you'd take months to recreate. So far
I'm finding that JSF "hugely" accelerates productivity, and the
professionalism of the finished product.

YMMV.

--
Lew
From: Arne Vajhøj on 2 Jul 2008 18:18
Rakesh wrote:
> On Jun 29, 4:42 pm, Arne Vajh�j <a...(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> Rakesh wrote:
>>> I am trying to port some applications from Netbeans 6.1 to Eclipse
>>> 3.4Ganymede. I got the following list of compilation errors, similar
>>> to the following -
>>> import com.sun.rave.web.ui.appbase.AbstractRequestBean;
>>> The import com.sun.rave cannot be resolved. I am trying to figure out
>>> the appropriate JAR file that needs to be added to the build path. Can
>>> you please suggest the right way of doing this.
>> As the name implies then this is a SUN implementation specific class.
>>
>> Using that makes the application non portable.
>>
>> If you want to proceed then you need to find the proper jar file. It
>> seems as if SUN Project Rave is not separate downloadble. So you will
>> need to look in the NB tree after the jar file.
>>
>> jar tvf foobar.jar | grep com.sun.rave.web.ui.appbase.AbstractRequestBean
>
> Surprisingly, I grepped for this in the list of jar files in
> netbeans-6.1 (on Linux, but that should not matter I guess) and could
> not find the reference to com/sun/rave (let alone the actual class).

Strange, because I have it !

C:\temp>jar tvf appbase.jar | grep
"com.sun.rave.web.ui.appbase.AbstractRequestBean"
494 Fri May 30 03:33:32 EDT 2008
com/sun/rave/web/ui/appbase/AbstractRequestBean.class

Arne
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