From: Justin P. Mattock on
On 08/09/2010 03:12 PM, Valeo de Vries wrote:
> On 9 August 2010 22:56, Justin P. Mattock<justinmattock(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/09/2010 02:28 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Donțu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about
>>>> message
>>>> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's
>>>> the
>>>> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually
>>>> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-)
>>>
>>> Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without
>>> corrupting them. It really is that broken.
>>>
>>
>> figured the encryption would be kind of a last resort situation..but if it's
>> that broken to where it wont pass it along without corrupting, then the best
>> solution is to figure out what Microsoft needs in terms of encoding, i.e. is
>> there a way to have the scanner scan but not throw everything around after
>> it scans.(if this is what it's doing)
>
> The link I posted earlier seems to give the impression that
> quoted-printable might do that. I may have misread that, though...
>
> Valeo
>


make sense.. Im wondering if it's a simple tell microsoft to scan the
original email, take the garbled copied email and send out the original
email rather than updating exchange etc...

Justin P. Mattock
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From: Gadiyar, Anand on
viresh kumar wrote:
> On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for
> >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only,
> >> > so they are broken.
> >> >
> > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers.
> > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!"
> >
> >
> > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails...
> >
>
> We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2.
> Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation.
>

Upgrading the Exchange server worked for us a couple of years ago. At least
git-send-email works okay now, but Outlook is horribly broken.

You could use gmail/others and send externally. Adding an explicit
"From :" line in the patch can still give you credits to your official
email address.

- Anand
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From: viresh kumar on
On 8/10/2010 2:52 PM, Gadiyar, Anand wrote:
> viresh kumar wrote:
>> > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote:
>>> > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote:
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for
>>>>> > >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only,
>>>>> > >> > so they are broken.
>>>>> > >> >
>>> > > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers.
>>> > > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!"
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails...
>>> > >
>> >
>> > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2.
>> > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation.
>> >
> Upgrading the Exchange server worked for us a couple of years ago. At least
> git-send-email works okay now, but Outlook is horribly broken.
>
> You could use gmail/others and send externally. Adding an explicit
> "From :" line in the patch can still give you credits to your official
> email address.
>

Thanks Anand.

Lets see if our IT support team manages to upgrade to SP2 or not.

viresh.
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From: Wouter Simons on
On 08/11/2010 12:53 PM, viresh kumar wrote:
> I couldn't find preformat. Is this same as plain text? If so i have tried it.
> I am not facing problem while writing mails from thunderbird but while receiving
> patches on thunderbird.

My thunderbird with default settings does not replace tabs with spaces.
Perhaps the difference between outlook and thunderbird has to do with
the method of connecting? On thunderbird you probably use IMAP to get
your email from exchange, the IMAP system is horrible on exchange.

I suspect it has to do with the implementation of rules regarding
spaces. The conformance documentation [1] of MS does not detail this
sufficiently, but I am pretty sure that if you use an alternate mail
client you will see the spaces replaced also when connecting through IMAP.

[1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee624585%28v=EXCHG.80%29.aspx

Wouter
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From: Geert Uytterhoeven on
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 23:28, David Woodhouse <dwmw2(a)infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Donțu wrote:
>>
>> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message
>> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the
>> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually
>> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-)
>
> Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without
> corrupting them. It really is that broken.

Indeed. In my experience Exchange may
- corrupt PGP signed email, causing the signature verification to fail,
- send/forward all email in BASE64, causing it to be dropped by
vger.kernel.org.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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