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From: Pete Dashwood on 13 Jan 2008 17:00 "Judson McClendon" <judmc(a)sunvaley0.com> wrote in message news:K6rij.51740$_m.47755(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net... > "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >> "Judson McClendon" <judmc(a)sunvaley0.com> wrote: >>> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >>>> >>>> As this post is not advocating violence against anybody, and does not >>>> make extensive quotes from any "Holy Writ", I have no problem with it. >>> >>> Pete, can you produce a post where I've advocated violence against >>> people? >>> Unless you're talking about capital punishment for crimes like murder, I >>> can't imagine where you're coming from. >> >> Perhaps you could re-read what your post quoted from the Bible? >> >> I believe a line was crossed. It isn't personal. > > What "line?" That Scripture was written to adherents of Judaism under > the Mosaic Law, about prophets operating under that system. So why are you waving it about in a Usenet Forum on computer programming? > It had > *absolutely nothing* to do with people outside that system. Your concept of "outside" and mine are different. That was demonstrated in your posts on Creation. I don't consider people to be "outside" Humanity. If some dogma advocates executing people for the way they think, I'm afraid I consider myself to be very much "inside" that group. >If you > actually read the Bible rather than bash it from ignorance, you might be > able to make comments about it that weren't patently false and absurd. I HAVE read it, cover to cover. And re-read and considered much of it. I would not reject it if I had NOT evaluated it. I don't bash it "from ignorance" and I usually avoid bashing it at all (or any other Holy scriptures, most of which I have also read.) I spent thirty years studying comparative religions, both theoretically and in the field. I think I have a broader background in this than you have. Nevertheless, I have not personally attacked you at all. Pete. -- "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."
From: Richard on 13 Jan 2008 19:29 On Jan 14, 11:00 am, "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: > "Judson McClendon" <ju...(a)sunvaley0.com> wrote in message > > news:K6rij.51740$_m.47755(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net... > > > > > "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: > >> "Judson McClendon" <ju...(a)sunvaley0.com> wrote: > >>> "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: > > >>>> As this post is not advocating violence against anybody, and does not > >>>> make extensive quotes from any "Holy Writ", I have no problem with it. > > >>> Pete, can you produce a post where I've advocated violence against > >>> people? > >>> Unless you're talking about capital punishment for crimes like murder, I > >>> can't imagine where you're coming from. > > >> Perhaps you could re-read what your post quoted from the Bible? > > >> I believe a line was crossed. It isn't personal. > > > What "line?" That Scripture was written to adherents of Judaism under > > the Mosaic Law, about prophets operating under that system. > > So why are you waving it about in a Usenet Forum on computer programming? > > > It had > > *absolutely nothing* to do with people outside that system. > > Your concept of "outside" and mine are different. That was demonstrated in > your posts on Creation. I don't consider people to be "outside" Humanity. > If some dogma advocates executing people for the way they think, I'm afraid > I consider myself to be very much "inside" that group. > > >If you > > actually read the Bible rather than bash it from ignorance, you might be > > able to make comments about it that weren't patently false and absurd. > > I HAVE read it, cover to cover. And re-read and considered much of it. I > would not reject it if I had NOT evaluated it. > > I don't bash it "from ignorance" and I usually avoid bashing it at all (or > any other Holy scriptures, most of which I have also read.) I spent thirty > years studying comparative religions, both theoretically and in the field. I > think I have a broader background in this than you have. > > Nevertheless, I have not personally attacked you at all. > > Pete. > -- > "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything." I watched the documentary on Lloyd Geering last Saturday night (One at 10:40 I think it was). While I had been aware at the time of the 'Heresy Trial' I didn't take much notice. I found that his theology was perfectly reasonable and fully supported by his exhaustive research.
From: Pete Dashwood on 14 Jan 2008 17:35
"Richard" <riplin(a)azonic.co.nz> wrote in message news:52eae8f4-da99-4176-aa29-e41a534b7a3a(a)i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 14, 11:00 am, "Pete Dashwood" > <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >> "Judson McClendon" <ju...(a)sunvaley0.com> wrote in message >> >> news:K6rij.51740$_m.47755(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> >> > "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >> >> "Judson McClendon" <ju...(a)sunvaley0.com> wrote: >> >>> "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: >> >> >>>> As this post is not advocating violence against anybody, and does >> >>>> not >> >>>> make extensive quotes from any "Holy Writ", I have no problem with >> >>>> it. >> >> >>> Pete, can you produce a post where I've advocated violence against >> >>> people? >> >>> Unless you're talking about capital punishment for crimes like >> >>> murder, I >> >>> can't imagine where you're coming from. >> >> >> Perhaps you could re-read what your post quoted from the Bible? >> >> >> I believe a line was crossed. It isn't personal. >> >> > What "line?" That Scripture was written to adherents of Judaism under >> > the Mosaic Law, about prophets operating under that system. >> >> So why are you waving it about in a Usenet Forum on computer programming? >> >> > It had >> > *absolutely nothing* to do with people outside that system. >> >> Your concept of "outside" and mine are different. That was demonstrated >> in >> your posts on Creation. I don't consider people to be "outside" >> Humanity. >> If some dogma advocates executing people for the way they think, I'm >> afraid >> I consider myself to be very much "inside" that group. >> >> >If you >> > actually read the Bible rather than bash it from ignorance, you might >> > be >> > able to make comments about it that weren't patently false and absurd. >> >> I HAVE read it, cover to cover. And re-read and considered much of it. I >> would not reject it if I had NOT evaluated it. >> >> I don't bash it "from ignorance" and I usually avoid bashing it at all >> (or >> any other Holy scriptures, most of which I have also read.) I spent >> thirty >> years studying comparative religions, both theoretically and in the >> field. I >> think I have a broader background in this than you have. >> >> Nevertheless, I have not personally attacked you at all. >> >> Pete. >> -- >> "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything." > > I watched the documentary on Lloyd Geering last Saturday night (One at > 10:40 I think it was). While I had been aware at the time of the > 'Heresy Trial' I didn't take much notice. I found that his theology > was perfectly reasonable and fully supported by his exhaustive > research. > Sorry I missed that. He was a good thinker. Pete. -- "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything." |