From: Steve Lord on
Pozsýr Balýzs wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:25:15AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>>I wonder if rather than the intermittency being time-based, it is
>>load-address-based? For example, suppose there's a bug in the symbol
>>lookup code?
>
>
> Just a data point: I met the same problem with 2.6.12-rc5, using
> gcc 3.3.4.
> I think it's time-based issue, because I was playing around with the
> initscripts, and the bug shows up when there are lots of modprobes in a
> short time.
>
>

I think this is not actually module loading itself, but a problem
between the fork/exec/wait code in nash and the kernel. The
commands which have problems are the ones which are not built
into nash. So this looks more like a problem with wait. This
would explain sleep fixing it and the fact that I have device
issues after module load.

Steve
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From: Andrew Morton on
Stephen Lord <lord(a)xfs.org> wrote:
>
> Pozsýr Balýzs wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 08:23:20AM -0500, Steve Lord wrote:
> >
> >>I think this is not actually module loading itself, but a problem
> >>between the fork/exec/wait code in nash and the kernel.
> >
> >
> > I do not use nash, only bash, so this is not a nash-specific issue.
> >
> >
>
> I disabled hyperthreading and things started working, so are there any
> HT related scheduling bugs right now?

There haven't been any scheduler changes for some time. There have been a
few low-level SMT changes I think.

Are you able to identify which kernel version broke it?
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From: Pozsár Balázs on
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 12:00:40PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > I disabled hyperthreading and things started working, so are there any
> > HT related scheduling bugs right now?
>
> There haven't been any scheduler changes for some time. There have been a
> few low-level SMT changes I think.
>
> Are you able to identify which kernel version broke it?

I do not have HT or SMP, though the kernel is smp. 2.6.9 works for me.
That's all I can tell now.


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From: Steve Lord on
Well, the bizarre part is that I think this has been around for a while, but
it
does not exhibit itself in redhat kernels which postdate the earliest
recolloction of me seeing it. 2.6.11-rc1 is the earliest I remember,
but I am not religious about updating the kernel on this box so
my samples are spotty.

The difference between the two may be that I recompile for a P4
while redhat uses a lowest common denominator cpu type.

If I get a chance this weekend I will try some other kernels and
report back. Maybe just start out by dumbing down my cpu
type.

Steve

> Stephen Lord <lord(a)xfs.org> wrote:
>>
>> I disabled hyperthreading and things started working, so are there any
>> HT related scheduling bugs right now?
>
> There haven't been any scheduler changes for some time. There have been a
> few low-level SMT changes I think.
>
> Are you able to identify which kernel version broke it?
>
>

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From: Pozsár Balázs on
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 03:09:08PM -0500, Steve Lord wrote:
> Well, the bizarre part is that I think this has been around for a while,
> but it
> does not exhibit itself in redhat kernels which postdate the earliest
> recolloction of me seeing it. 2.6.11-rc1 is the earliest I remember,
> but I am not religious about updating the kernel on this box so
> my samples are spotty.
>
> The difference between the two may be that I recompile for a P4
> while redhat uses a lowest common denominator cpu type.
>
> If I get a chance this weekend I will try some other kernels and
> report back. Maybe just start out by dumbing down my cpu
> type.

I always used CONFIG_M586=y.

Did you turn preempt on? I did with the 2.6.12-rc, but not with the
(working) 2.6.9, so this migth be the difference.
Sorry, I do not have currently for testing.


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