From: Splat on
I've finally got my authentic shock-mount Anvil flight case for my PA gear.
For a while I've had a bunch of ... I can't say it.... can't say it... SKB
plastic rack cases... forgive me.. and I'm cleaning out what I don't need
and moving everything over to the Anvil. Are there any rack "do's and
don'ts"? Here's what'll be going in: Furman AR-1215; Crown CE-4000; QSC
PLX3402; Behringer DEQ2496; Behringer CX2310. I also have some 4" box fans
that I can throw in to help with the air flow with the Crown and QSC venting
issues. I'd appreciate any tips, tricks, or recommendations on equipment
placement or rack doodads that'll come in handy on the road. Thanks.
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Splat


From: George Gleason on

"Splat" <Ihatespam> wrote in message
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> I've finally got my authentic shock-mount Anvil flight case for my PA
gear.
> For a while I've had a bunch of ... I can't say it.... can't say it... SKB
> plastic rack cases... forgive me.. and I'm cleaning out what I don't need
> and moving everything over to the Anvil. Are there any rack "do's and
> don'ts"?

don't use SKB :-)

Here's what'll be going in: Furman AR-1215; Crown CE-4000; QSC
> PLX3402; Behringer DEQ2496; Behringer CX2310. I also have some 4" box fans
> that I can throw in to help with the air flow with the Crown and QSC
venting

heavy weight to the bottom
you should not need the fans, but they will not hurt.
I would not mount this all in one rack

at your house you would have your house eq efx comps and gates(when you get
some)
and in your amp rack(which lives up by the speakers) are your crossover and
amps.
now there are some who put the crossover at the house
I don't do this as a properly set up crossover really doesn't need playing
with each night
also when the crossover is in the house rack you need 6 return lines not
two for the amps
of copurse if you put your amps at house you will have a "lot" of speaker
cabling going to the stage
this will be costly, ineffecient electrically, and a pita for set up/ strike

if you have to continue to use the skb until you have two(or three) racks
I have a house rack and two amp racks,one amp rack behind each stack this
allows very quick set up less cable to waste power and pick up at the end of
the night
George


From: Splat on
George Gleason wrote:
> heavy weight to the bottom
> you should not need the fans, but they will not hurt.
> I would not mount this all in one rack

I should have stated the rack would be moved for my band... typical weekend
warriors deal. Most of the places have the rooms on the ground floor so the
case would pretty much be rolled right in. Would you still recommend
splitting it up to two (or more) cases?
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Splat



From: Michael R. Kesti on
Splat wrote:

>I've finally got my authentic shock-mount Anvil flight case for my PA gear.
>For a while I've had a bunch of ... I can't say it.... can't say it... SKB
>plastic rack cases... forgive me.. and I'm cleaning out what I don't need
>and moving everything over to the Anvil. Are there any rack "do's and
>don'ts"? Here's what'll be going in: Furman AR-1215; Crown CE-4000; QSC
>PLX3402; Behringer DEQ2496; Behringer CX2310. I also have some 4" box fans
>that I can throw in to help with the air flow with the Crown and QSC venting
>issues. I'd appreciate any tips, tricks, or recommendations on equipment
>placement or rack doodads that'll come in handy on the road. Thanks.

In general, power distribution and heaviest gear to the bottom and most
frequently operated/adjusted to the top. If I was going to put the listed
gear in one rack I'd probably order them like this:

Behringer DEQ2496 - 1 RU - 5 lbs
Behringer CX2310 - 1 RU - 6 lbs
QSC PLX3402 - 2 RU - 21 lbs
Crown CE-4000 - 3 RU - 33 lbs
Furman AR-1215 - 1 RU - 12 lbs
----- ----
8 RU 77 lbs

77 lbs of gear plus cabling and the weight of the empty rack is going to
be well over 100 lbs. Are there casters on that rack?

I like to mount rope lights toward the back on the inside vertical walls.

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Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mrkesti at comcast dot net | - The Who, Bargain
From: George Gleason on

"Splat" <Ihatespam> wrote in message
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> George Gleason wrote:
> > heavy weight to the bottom
> > you should not need the fans, but they will not hurt.
> > I would not mount this all in one rack
>
> I should have stated the rack would be moved for my band... typical
weekend
> warriors deal. Most of the places have the rooms on the ground floor so
the
> case would pretty much be rolled right in. Would you still recommend
> splitting it up to two (or more) cases?
> --
> Splat
>
>
Sorry I did not know you were working the entire rig from the stage
i "assumed " a normal "pro sound" set up with a engineer out at house
your plan will be fine for band on stage

one more small question, are you expanding twards haveing a house engineer
some day(soon)
if not I haven't seen many "mixed from the stage" situations where a powered
head was not adaquate
pause for a moment and think if your making this harder than it needs to be

I often run my cheapest rig from a powered head(allen&heath Icon dp1000)
and one behringer ep2500
the behringer run the front end(18/12/1 each side(rcf event series), the
tops runs off the high pass out from the subs)
george
the icon runs 4 monitors on two mixes(behringer f1520's)