Rapport from installation of Ubuntu 7.10 on amd64
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From: //o//annabee "Ubuntu for on 1 Feb 2008 12:20 I finally got a successful DVD with Ubunty 7.10 (Gutzy) and it found all my hardware, and is fast, and the graphic is _splended_ - very fast slick graphic, with full hardware acceleration enabled default. (very funny with dragging the windows :D :D) (uses GNOME I belive) After a small search, (enabling 5 checkboxes in /etc/apt/sources.list) I now have VLC working, and can play my movies and MP3s just fine. Wine is running allthough the results are not that good, but at least apps run there. - errors with Stretchblt, locating relative paths, icons draws, and searching for files. (and windows style flags) Otherwise it seem to work. This version of Ubunty is simply the best OS I have ever seen. "Flat endusers" can use this version of Linux and it is _much_ higher quality works than win2000 and the reason I never saw this before is simply that I never got as far as to see it. I spend hours to update win2000 after a reinstall. I spent like 20 minutes on the coach with linux, plus the 5 checkboxes. I did not need asking for any help. I am such positivly surpriced at this first impressive results that I am stunned. I bow to you UBUNTU guys. I never say an ugly word about GNU Linux again. This ubunty _will_ be the leader OS. If not at once, then very soon. That is clear. Nothing can beat "better" + "free" + more easy to install all at once. I also checked out installing packages "by hand". That is very clever and easy once you done it a couple of times. And is then faster then the GUI way. my hardware: amd64 single core 3700, 1 giga ram, geforce chipset, ati radeon gt800 256m I installed the 32bit version as the 64bit version did not seem to work on my machine. (it could have been the image was bad). Congratulations at the Ubuntu guys. I dont see any need for windows on this AMD64 anymore. Only drawback is I now have to start using NASM for coding. Looking forward to the future of the 64bit ubuntu distro, that unfortunatly did not boot here. I see no longer any reason to use windows. They did it! When it works like this on all hardware, the job is over. And MS will simply die. Bye.
From: //o//annabee "Ubuntu for on 1 Feb 2008 12:23 P� Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:20:55 +0100, skrev //\\o//\\annabee <"Ubuntu for ever">: > I finally got a successful DVD with Ubunty 7.10 (Gutzy) > and it found all my hardware, and is fast, and the graphic is _splended_ > - very fast slick graphic, with full hardware acceleration enabled > default. > > (very funny with dragging the windows :D :D) (uses GNOME I belive) > > After a small search, (enabling 5 checkboxes in /etc/apt/sources.list) I > now have VLC working, and can play my movies and MP3s just fine. > > Wine is running allthough the results are not that good, but at least > apps run there. > - errors with Stretchblt, locating relative paths, icons draws, and > searching for files. (and windows style flags) > > Otherwise it seem to work. > > This version of Ubunty is simply the best OS I have ever seen. > > "Flat endusers" can use this version of Linux and it is _much_ higher > quality works than win2000 and the reason I never saw this before is > simply that I never got as far as to see it. I spend hours to update > win2000 after a reinstall. I spent like 20 minutes on the coach with > linux, plus the 5 checkboxes. I did not need asking for any help. > > I am such positivly surpriced at this first impressive results that I am > stunned. I bow to you UBUNTU guys. I never say an ugly word about GNU > Linux again. > This ubunty _will_ be the leader OS. If not at once, then very soon. > That is clear. > Nothing can beat "better" + "free" + more easy to install all at once. > > I also checked out installing packages "by hand". That is very clever > and easy once > you done it a couple of times. And is then faster then the GUI way. > > my hardware: amd64 single core 3700, 1 giga ram, geforce chipset, ati > radeon gt800 256m > I installed the 32bit version as the 64bit version did not seem to work > on my machine. (it could have been the image was bad). > > Congratulations at the Ubuntu guys. I dont see any need for windows on > this AMD64 anymore. > Only drawback is I now have to start using NASM for coding. Looking > forward to the future of the 64bit ubuntu distro, that unfortunatly did > not boot here. > > I see no longer any reason to use windows. They did it! When it works > like this on all hardware, the job is over. And MS will simply die. > oh and I forgot... it found my flash and cellphone drives as well. > Bye. > >
From: Evenbit on 1 Feb 2008 14:31 On Jan 31, 12:20 pm, //\\\\o//\\\\annabee <"Ubuntu for ever"> wrote: > I finally got a successful DVD with Ubunty 7.10 (Gutzy) > and it found all my hardware, and is fast, and the graphic is _splended_ > - very fast slick graphic, with full hardware acceleration enabled default. > That's the Compiz-Fusion which beats the pants off of MS' AreoGlass. > Only drawback is I now have to start using NASM for coding. HLA is available for L'unix. :) Nathan.
From: //o//annabee "Ubuntu for on 1 Feb 2008 15:49 P� Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:31:40 +0100, skrev Evenbit <nbaker2328(a)charter.net>: > On Jan 31, 12:20 pm, //\\\\o//\\\\annabee <"Ubuntu for ever"> wrote: >> I finally got a successful DVD with Ubunty 7.10 (Gutzy) >> and it found all my hardware, and is fast, and the graphic is _splended_ >> - very fast slick graphic, with full hardware acceleration enabled >> default. >> > > That's the Compiz-Fusion which beats the pants off of MS' AreoGlass. I havent been able to install Vista. 500 giga space avail, but it insisted on having 40gig on a spesific drive. So I didnt bother. An OS that stupid, to let 500giga go undetected ...so utterly arrogant, it does not deserve to be given a chance. GNU Linux, now that the speed is instant for near everything, is, if you put the flashy things aside, also a _much_ better os. It only requres 2g + a swap drive. And it understands both NTFS, and FAT drives, and several others. So it is a POLITE os, because you can continue to use the other drives and files without any work at all. Linux also has more visibility. You get to feel in control. And it has EOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS of ready to install apps and libraries. I am _extremly_ impressed with it. > > Nathan.
From: Frank Kotler on 1 Feb 2008 17:13
//\\o//\\annabee wrote: .... > Only drawback is I now have to start using NASM for coding. No, you could use Gas... :) Seriously, as an "assembler", Nasm and the assembler in RosAsm do exactly the same thing. I think the bulk of your pain is from missing the IDE, not any shortcoming in Nasm, as an "assembler". You'll need to build yourself *some* kind of an "environment" in which to work (always). Okay, it won't be the fully integrated environment that you know and love - at least, not at first... But you'll need something (besides just Nasm... or an alternative), so you might as well start looking for the "components" of what you'd like to be using. You'll want an editor. I suppose you'll want a pointee-clickee one. I can't help you there. Only thing I've used is "kwrite", and then only to cut-and-paste code in and out of these posts - never tried actually editing anything with it. There are lots of editors... mostly open-source... mostly *not* in asm... You'll want to look at Jeff Owens' AsmIde. I don't think you'll like it - not much like RosAsm - but it may have parts you can use (either as part of your not-yet-integrated development environment, or as code to build something "better" on). I use "mcedit" - part of the "midnight commander" package (dunno if this is a clone of Norton Commander or Norton Commander is a clone of this). I've noticed that recent versions of mcedit have Nasm-compatible syntax highlighting (I'd turn it off, but I'm using an earlier version - some people like it, I find it "distracting"... I'm tryin'a *think*, dammit!) I'm not suggesting you'd like mcedit... just "what's possible" to work with... No "right click navigation" that I'm aware of... Debugger... in Nasm... Hmmm, I don't know what this thing "is", or where I found it (the README appears to be in Chinese... I think). Outside of a reference to "Copyleft", no real licensing info. I'm redistributing it... http://mysite.verizon.net/fbkotler/debug-0.3.zip I gotta look at that some more myself... looks interesting! Another thing I've got, and never looked at, is a "ide-nasm-0.0-39mdk.noarch.rpm". Written in, and requires, "GAMBAS" (VB for Linux, I take it), which I've never been able to install (didn't try too hard). I can make that available, if you want... You recall that nasm-glade-demo that "AIR" ("AIRR"?) posted, some time ago? I never got it to run. Apparently an editor, implemented as Nasm and XML (???). Betov thought it looked interesting, as I recall. Never heard much about it... Good thing about Linux assembly - lots of room for improvement! (the bad thing is that it's an oxymoron - Linux is portable, asm isn't - so if it's asm, it's not "real Linux"... still works!) > Looking > forward to the future of the 64bit ubuntu distro, that unfortunatly did > not boot here. That *is* unfortunate. Running a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit machine is... almost like running dos! :) You're running in "castrated mode". I understood that 64-bit Windows didn't really "work", I thought 64-bit Linux did. Don't give up! > I see no longer any reason to use windows. I occasionally "miss" Windows, in a sense, just to see "what's going on". There's a message on the Nasm Forum... guy says a dialog-box is behaving differently if coded in Nasm than it was with Masm. Right... Nasm's generating the wrong "call" instruction... Obviously not a "Nasm problem", but without 'doze running, I can't help him figure out what it *is*. (likewise the MapAndLoad problem on the Yahoo nasm-win32-users list...) Other than that, no... > They did it! When it works > like this on all hardware, the job is over. And MS will simply die. Wishful thinking, I fear. But Vista(r), from what I hear, is a good opportunity to say, "This time, you've gone too far!" No harm keeping a positive attitude! Best, Frank |