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From: Joseph Crawford on 24 Jun 2008 15:53
The cost factor was why I did not speak up myself.

On Jun 24, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Ken Keefe wrote:

> I'm a little surprised no one else has commented on this, but for a
> website that complicated, 10k is way too low. I've done work on
> websites that do almost all of those things separately, but not
> combined and I can tell you to have a high quality website that does
> just one of the things you mention will cost you about 10k. This is
> very much a guess because something like Blogging can be done very
> simply (cheaply). But it will not have even close to the feature set
> of the major blogging sites.
>
> In fact, I just wrapped up a project that was a simple business
> directory last month for 5k. Again, that site was *simple* and no
> where near as flexible as the code you see from yahoo or google. There
> is a reason those companies pay hundreds of developers 80k a year...
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade. Hopefully you just left out a 0 or
> two...
>
> Ken
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:00 AM, A. Joseph <joefazee(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Which company in India or USA can you recommend to design a complex
>> website for my company.
>>
>> The site will be a social site, will include, Blog, Articles, Shops,
>> Music, Movie, Directory, Pre-paid card system, Culture and Tourism,
>> downloads, file upload and sharing
>> The site is just like yahoo, but no email service.
>>
>> Advert method will be like Google Ads
>> PHP 5 MySql, Smarty, SOAP Service, Ajax, Javascript, div based,
>> Apache
>> with mod_rewrite
>>
>> Admin Area, Users area, front end
>> Full detail will be available
>> Planned amount is $10000 Max
>>
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From: "Daniel Brown" on 24 Jun 2008 15:54
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Ken Keefe <kjkeefe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm a little surprised no one else has commented on this, but for a
> website that complicated, 10k is way too low.

I actually did this morning, but the message included other
information (no advertisement or offers or anything) that I thought
was better left as a personal email.

In any case, Ken, from the (somewhat vague) description in the
original email, you're correct. It took Yahoo! over 13 years to build
to where they are now, at an ever-expanding cost of
millions-upon-millions of dollars. Trying to basically clone the site
for $10,000 isn't practical, but I'm sure the OP knows that and might
have just left some specifics out of the email.

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From: Sancar Saran on 25 Jun 2008 05:37
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 22:45:20 Ken Keefe wrote:
> I'm a little surprised no one else has commented on this, but for a
> website that complicated, 10k is way too low. I've done work on
> websites that do almost all of those things separately, but not
> combined and I can tell you to have a high quality website that does
> just one of the things you mention will cost you about 10k. This is
> very much a guess because something like Blogging can be done very
> simply (cheaply). But it will not have even close to the feature set
> of the major blogging sites.
>
> In fact, I just wrapped up a project that was a simple business
> directory last month for 5k. Again, that site was *simple* and no
> where near as flexible as the code you see from yahoo or google. There
> is a reason those companies pay hundreds of developers 80k a year...
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade. Hopefully you just left out a 0 or two...
>
> Ken
>

Because, no resonable company or investor send a message someting like that.

Poster haven't any clue his requirements. This kind of web site requires
enormus amount of management (other than code). And that 10K even does not
pay design document.

We classfiy this kind of messages: Cheap Sausage Machine request.

They think that web site (for example yahoo.com) some kind of Sausage Machine
like put meat this side get saussage other side.

Regards
Sancar

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