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From: Tim Woodall on 17 Jul 2005 17:09 On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:49:30 +0100, SW <SW(a)Idontwantspam.invalid> wrote: > bartender(a)beer.sna.cx wrote: > >> Paul Sherwin <paulSPAM(a)paulsherwin.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>>Why on earth did they not go for streaming MP3? >>> >>> It's to do with copyright issues. They went for RealAudio because it >>> makes it difficult for people to store the output as a file for later >>> listening, burning onto a CD etc. I agree it's a pain in the bum >>> though. >> >> How can one record BBC recordings, from their website ? >> >> I like listening to old BBC radio comedy shows, eg. Steptoe, >> but I'd like to record these to tape. How can I capture >> the audio on a Debian Linux system ? >> > > Would any kind soul be willing to explain to a Newbie how to do this on a > Mandrake 10 system? > I've installed RealPlayer 10 and if I listen to live BBC Radio I can listen > in Real Player and view the source as described. However, I want to record > last Tuesday's Steve Wright show (my bro' was on the quiz) and when I > listen to that, it always opens the BBC radio player, and I can hear it OK, > but don't know how to record, and the instructions given to the OP apply to > the RealPlayer app. > The built in BBC player didn't work for me in Konqueror by the way, and so I > configured that to use RealPlayer for real audio files, but that didn't > work either. > I don't have KRecord, would I be able to configure that to record the audio > stream? > I'm running out of time here! > > Thanks in advance > vsound will do what you want. You run vsound [options] program arguments Where program will be realplayer and arguments will be the url of the file. And there is an option to have vsound write to a file. I think it's a one or two line script that you then use a file association in konqueror to have all this happen automatically when you click on a link. Otherwise it's slightly more difficult as the first url gives a short file that points to the real stream. This only works in real time, you can't download the file any faster. (I used to have this working but I stupidly called the script x.x as it was a "one off" and it's gone now) Tim. -- God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = - @B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t," and there was light. http://tjw.hn.org/ http://www.locofungus.btinternet.co.uk/
From: Whiskers on 17 Jul 2005 17:53 On 2005-07-17, SW <SW(a)Idontwantspam.invalid> wrote: > bartender(a)beer.sna.cx wrote: > >> Paul Sherwin <paulSPAM(a)paulsherwin.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>>Why on earth did they not go for streaming MP3? >>> >>> It's to do with copyright issues. They went for RealAudio because it >>> makes it difficult for people to store the output as a file for later >>> listening, burning onto a CD etc. I agree it's a pain in the bum >>> though. >> >> How can one record BBC recordings, from their website ? >> >> I like listening to old BBC radio comedy shows, eg. Steptoe, >> but I'd like to record these to tape. How can I capture >> the audio on a Debian Linux system ? >> > > Would any kind soul be willing to explain to a Newbie how to do this on a > Mandrake 10 system? > I've installed RealPlayer 10 and if I listen to live BBC Radio I can listen > in Real Player and view the source as described. However, I want to record > last Tuesday's Steve Wright show (my bro' was on the quiz) and when I > listen to that, it always opens the BBC radio player, and I can hear it OK, > but don't know how to record, and the instructions given to the OP apply to > the RealPlayer app. > The built in BBC player didn't work for me in Konqueror by the way, and so I > configured that to use RealPlayer for real audio files, but that didn't > work either. > I don't have KRecord, would I be able to configure that to record the audio > stream? > I'm running out of time here! > > Thanks in advance > > SW See the web page <http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/archives/2004/09/25/howto-capture-streamin g-audio-for-later> or <http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2141227B> mentioned earlier. The instructions for the step-by-step method using Mplayer from the command line, work well for me (Mandriva 2005, alias Mandrake 10.2). I didn't know how to do it either until I found this thread :)) You can install Mplayer using urpmi or the 'software management' part of 'configure your computer'. Mplayer wants the file called "cook.so.6.0" to be in the directory /usr/lib/RealPlayer9/codecs/ - I had to copy it there from /usr/lib/real/ after installing the real-codecs-1.2-2plf rpm package from one of the plf repositories (I forget which - note that plf is now divided into 'free' and 'nonfree' so you may need to update your 'sources' using the easy urpmi website of the club mirrors chooser). You'll also want the 'vorbis-tools' rpm to convert the .wav file created by Mplayer into .ogg format (using the command oggenc), or 'lame' to convert it to .mp3 format. (I prefer ogg format, the sound is at least as good as mp3 and the files are smaller). I ended up with three files in the directory I was in when I ran the Mplayer and oggenc commands: 'stream.dump' which is the original Real Player stream; 'audiodump.wav' which Mplayer builds out of the stream; and 'audiodump.ogg' which is the file for my 'digital audio player', or for 'Kaffeine' on my computer. To get the .ram file from the BBC, I used my browser to get to the 'listen again' radio player, and clicked on 'use external Real Player' and 'saved' the file, then opened it to see the 'hidden' rtsp:// address for the actual stream. -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~
From: Whiskers on 17 Jul 2005 19:35 On 2005-07-17, Whiskers <catwheezel(a)operamail.com> wrote: snip > To get the .ram file from the BBC, I used my browser to get to the 'listen > again' radio player, and clicked on 'use external Real Player' and 'saved' > the file, then opened it to see the 'hidden' rtsp:// address for the actual > stream. What I just described, worked for a Radio 4 programme on Sunday ('Just a Minute'). When I tried to listen to a Radio 3 programme, not only does the Real Player thing from the BBC not work at all (no sound, and no 'use external player' button), but there seems to be no .ram file involved and I can't see how to discover the true stream URL. So there is no way to even get the stream, let alone 'dump' it to a local file. This is particularly annoying, as over my dial-up even if the stream does work, it works only occasionally and often has so many breaks and pauses for buffering as to be unuseable without dumping the file for later listening. I suspect the BBC are actively working to make it as hard as possible for anyone to keep a permanent file of their radio programmes, which is fair enough as far as it goes - it is their property. There may also be load problems for their servers as 'foreign' time-zones wake up and start listening. -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~
From: Bruce Stephens on 17 Jul 2005 19:45 Whiskers <catwheezel(a)operamail.com> writes: [...] > What I just described, worked for a Radio 4 programme on Sunday ('Just a > Minute'). When I tried to listen to a Radio 3 programme, not only does the > Real Player thing from the BBC not work at all (no sound, and no 'use > external player' button), but there seems to be no .ram file involved and I > can't see how to discover the true stream URL. You're right. That's weird. I wonder if they've done the Radio 3 ones in a special IE-only form? The "Listen again" pages they've got don't appear to allow me to listen again. [...]
From: Robert Marshall on 18 Jul 2005 02:10
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Bruce Stephens wrote: > Whiskers <catwheezel(a)operamail.com> writes: > > [...] > >> What I just described, worked for a Radio 4 programme on Sunday >> ('Just a Minute'). When I tried to listen to a Radio 3 programme, >> not only does the Real Player thing from the BBC not work at all >> (no sound, and no 'use external player' button), but there seems to >> be no .ram file involved and I can't see how to discover the true >> stream URL. > > You're right. That's weird. I wonder if they've done the Radio 3 > ones in a special IE-only form? The "Listen again" pages they've > got don't appear to allow me to listen again. > > [...] I find http://dave.org.uk/streams/ pretty useful as a source of the true urls. I successfully recorded something from listen again on Radio 3 last week - though that page does say the BBC is annoyed by some of his links Robert -- La grenouille songe..dans son chýteau d'eau |