From: Whiskers on
On 2005-07-18, Jonathan Buzzard <jonathan(a)uk.me.buzzard> wrote:

snip

> I would only add that you will get *much* better results getting a
> Freeview box with a USB interface and recording the broadcast MP2
> stream. I have been doing that now almost since the start of BBC7,
> and have a large archive of material. I believe there are some
> satellite systems that would work now that the BBC broadcasts
> free to air on the satellite system. You get BBC7 in 160kbps MP2
> in stereo which beats the hell out of the direct streaming and listen
> again archives.
>
> JAB.

An interesting approach; I didn't know there were Freeview boxes with USB
connectors. My Sony hasn't.

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From: Bruce Stephens on
Whiskers <catwheezel(a)operamail.com> writes:

> On 2005-07-18, Bruce Stephens <bruce+usenet(a)cenderis.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[...]

>> Cool. I still find it odd that the Radio 3 pages are
>> similar-but-different to the Radio 4 and BBC 7 pages, in that the
>> latter actually have links to things that allow one to listen to the
>> programs and the Radio 3 pages appear not to. I'll have to look next
>> time I boot into Windows, and see if they look the same in IE.
>
> Looks as though there isn't a single group of web-techies in the BBC
> doing all the design and interfaces across all the web sites. I
> think the different radio and TV channels like to do their own
> thing.

I can go with that. On the other hand, the particular pages I'm
looking at sure look very similar. And anyway, the Radio 3 pages
purport to allow me to Listen Again, but just don't seem to have any
links or anything that might let me. Maybe it's just a bug, and
there's some alternative route through the website that gets a page
that actually works.
From: Andrew Oakley on
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:49:30 +0100, SW <SW(a)Idontwantspam.invalid>
wrote:
>> I like listening to old BBC radio comedy shows, eg. Steptoe,
>> but I'd like to record these to tape. How can I capture
>> the audio on a Debian Linux system ?
>Would any kind soul be willing to explain to a Newbie how to do this on a
>Mandrake 10 system?

I wrote this, should work on any *nix system with wget, mplayer &
lame. Outputs an .mp3 with the name as a timestamp.

You might want to change the lame options as it currently encodes to
16khz 32-bit mono, this provides small filesizes and is acceptable for
speech programmes such as The Goon Show or The News Quiz, but is
probably unpleasant for music or radio drama with lots of effects.

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#!/bin/sh
# getgoon
# Fetches a .ram RealAudio stream and converts it to an .mp3
# Requires mplayer & lame
# Public Domain - Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com
version=0.2

# Print usage and exit if no parameter
if [ "$1" == "" ]; then
echo "Usage: $0 http://site/path/filename.ram"
echo "Fetches a .ram RealAudio stream and converts it to an .mp3"
echo "Requires mplayer & lame"
echo "v$version - Public Domain - Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com"
exit
fi
filename=`date +"%Y%m%d-%H%M%S"`
nanosecs=`date +"%N"`
decamillisecs=`expr $nanosecs / 100000`
filename="$filename-$decamillisecs"
wget $1 -O $filename.ram
cat $filename.ram | xargs mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile $filename.rm
mplayer -ao pcm -aofile $filename.pcm -vo null $filename.rm
lame -q 3 -Y --clip-detect --notemp --nores --noath --cwlimit 16 -m m
-b 32 -F --cbr $filename.pcm -o $filename.mp3
rm -f $filename.ram
rm -f $filename.rm
rm -f $filename.pcm
echo "Saved as $filename.mp3 - done"

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From: Whiskers on
On 2005-07-18, Bruce Stephens <bruce+usenet(a)cenderis.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Whiskers <catwheezel(a)operamail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2005-07-18, Bruce Stephens <bruce+usenet(a)cenderis.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> Cool. I still find it odd that the Radio 3 pages are
>>> similar-but-different to the Radio 4 and BBC 7 pages, in that the
>>> latter actually have links to things that allow one to listen to the
>>> programs and the Radio 3 pages appear not to. I'll have to look next
>>> time I boot into Windows, and see if they look the same in IE.
>>
>> Looks as though there isn't a single group of web-techies in the BBC
>> doing all the design and interfaces across all the web sites. I
>> think the different radio and TV channels like to do their own
>> thing.
>
> I can go with that. On the other hand, the particular pages I'm
> looking at sure look very similar. And anyway, the Radio 3 pages
> purport to allow me to Listen Again, but just don't seem to have any
> links or anything that might let me. Maybe it's just a bug, and
> there's some alternative route through the website that gets a page
> that actually works.

I can get the pop-up page with some of the graphics associated with the BBC
Radio Player, using Opera 8.01 with Real Player plugin, on Mandriva 2005.
But for Radio 3, the best I can get after that is a Real Player window with
an error message "Requested file not found. The link you followed may be
outdated or inaccurate. (file:///home/mark/helper)". There is no such
file.

Using 'mplayer -dumpfile <url>' works very well though, once I have the
url for the stream, from the website mentioned by Robert Marsh earlier.

Listening to streams 'in real time' is most aggravating over my dial-up,
with lots of pauses for 'congestion' and 'buffering', and drop-outs, and
RealPlayer running away and having to be 'killed'. Once I've captured the
whole stream, I can actually enjoy listening without those aggravations,
with the bonus that I can compress it into .ogg format and listen while I'm
on the move, with my digital audio player.

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From: Whiskers on
On 2005-07-18, Whiskers <catwheezel(a)operamail.com> wrote:
> On 2005-07-18, Robert Marshall <spam(a)chezmarshall.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

snip

>> I find http://dave.org.uk/streams/ pretty useful as a source of the true urls.
>>
>> I successfully recorded something from listen again on Radio 3 last
>> week - though that page does say the BBC is annoyed by some of his
>> links
>>
>> Robert
>
> That is what I call a /great/ link :))
>
> I'm apparently getting Saturday's 'The Early Music Show' as I type; looks
> as though I might be able to move on from using the VCR to record off
> the Freeview digibox after all :))

[later] That seems to have worked very satisfactorily :))

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