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From: Jonathan N. Little on 11 Apr 2008 15:04
howa wrote:
> On 4$B7n(B10$BF|(B, $B2<8a(B9$B;~(B45$BJ,(B, Bergamot <berga...(a)visi.com> wrote:
>> howa wrote:
>>> On 4$B7n(B10$BF|(B, $B2<8a(B12$B;~(B30$BJ,(B, Bergamot <berga...(a)visi.com> wrote:
>>>> There is *no* such correlation between screen pixels and ems. Em is
>>>> a measure of font size, which could be any value. I don't know where the
>>>> 13 comes from, but it is an arbitrary number at best.
>>> 13 mean the default font-size being used by YUI CSS,
>> So they are setting a fixed font-size, which is a bad beginning. I
>> assume that is 13px. BTW, my default text size is 20px, with a 17px
>> minimum. 13px is intolerably small to me.
>>
>
> Nope, default font-size is 13px, but they will use relative font size
> relative to this default, e.g. write 12px as 93%.

What do you mean "nope"? Setting the base font in pixels and then
defining other rules in "%" from that absolute value is *not* relative
font sizes! Relative font sizes are using %, em, ex, from the user's
default! I.e., default "body { font-size: 100%; }"

He just wrote 13px is too small for him to read so why would 93% of 13px
be any more legible? Especially if he is stuck using IE6.

>
> Their way to use CSS is very flexible and nice with different zoom
> level, e.g. you can zoom in or zoom out in Yahoo.com and see.
>

Which browser here? IE7? If they have IE6 your 13px will be 13px...no
zoom. I guess he could change his monitor resolution for your page, now
that would be "flexible"

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From: Bergamot on 11 Apr 2008 16:31
howa wrote:
> On 4月10日, 下午9時45分, Bergamot <berga...(a)visi.com> wrote:
>>
>> So they are setting a fixed font-size, which is a bad beginning. I
>> assume that is 13px. BTW, my default text size is 20px, with a 17px
>> minimum. 13px is intolerably small to me.
>
> Nope, default font-size is 13px

Excuse me? *My* default font size in *my* browser is 20px. What they set
in their stylesheet as a default is irrelevant.

>, but they will use relative font size
> relative to this default, e.g. write 12px as 93%.

Um, if I have trouble reading 13px, how do you expect me to read 12px?

> Their way to use CSS is very flexible and nice with different zoom
> level, e.g. you can zoom in or zoom out in Yahoo.com and see.

All I see when I go to yahoo.com is a whole bunch of horizontal
scrolling. How is that "very flexible and nice"? Must be like beauty -
in the eye of the beholder. :-\

BTW, the whole thing would be quite unreadable if I didn't enforce that
17px minimum font size. The only good thing I can say about it is that
there don't seem to be a bunch of overlapping elements like I find at
many other sites.

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