From: Arno Wagner on
Previously "Steve S \(another one\)" <somebody(a)some.where.net> wrote:

> "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:68dqajF2sd97fU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Previously "Steve S \(another one\)" <somebody(a)some.where.net> wrote:
>>> A friend's 6-month old notebook has failed. Needless to say, she has
>>> irreplaceable files on the drive for which she has no backup.
>>
>> The usual comments about ignoring reality (disks fail) not changing
>> reality apply.
>>
>>> The drive apparently won't spin up. She's had a estimated price for
>>> data recovery, but this is totally outside her budget.
>>
>> If the files are irreplaceable, she will need to pay. Otherwise
>> they will very likely turn out to have been replaceable after all.
>>
>>> It occurred to me that, assuming she wants the notebook working
>>> again anyway, she could buy an identical replacement drive and try
>>> swapping the controller boards over to see it the fault was on the
>>> controller rather than the mech. Would this be a reasonable thing to
>>> try?
>>
>> Yes, but the success rate is relatively low, and you need an exact
>> match, which can be very hard to find. Also you may damage the drive
>> further, by _any_ experimantation, which can increase the cost of
>> recovery significantly.
>>
>>> Or do the controllers have stuff like calibration info in flash
>>> that would render the idea non-feasible?
>>
>> That is why the success rate is relatively low. Depends also on
>> the drive, I guess. The thing is that the "high" prices data
>> recovery outfits ask are really quite reasonable, in relation to
>> effort and expertise needed and the fact that they have to
>> keep lot of spare parts in stock. Also the risk of a professional
>> recovery outfit actually damaging your drive further, possibly
>> beyond recovery, is pretty low.
>>
>> Still, there is a price range and there are cheaper and more
>> expensive recovery outfits. There are also thos that will
>> only charge for a successful recovery, but they may not even
>> try more complicated cases or have to be more expensive in
>> order to stay economically viable.
>>

> No argument from me about the pricing of the recovery services,
> Arno, but just because the files are irreplaceable does not mean
> that she can afford to recover them. The data in question has no
> intrinsic value, it's photos. The photos cannot be replaced. She
> and her husband both lost their jobs when the factory shut down last
> month, so they are having to balance their priorities very carefully
> right now.

Very unpleasant situation, indeed. I would advise to store the
drive safely (ESD bag, silica gel, sealed outer bag) and have
it professionally recoverd when/if money becomes avaliable
again. Attempting a board swap is probably a waste of money
and a risk in addition.

Arno


From: Arno Wagner on
Previously "Steve S \(another one\)" <somebody(a)some.where.net> wrote:

> "Squeeze" <rubberduck(a)duckies.au> wrote in message
> news:4821ccb9$0$13870$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com...
>> The other Steve S is a troll too?
>>
>> Steve S (another one) wrote in
>> news:8xgUj.21058$yD2.12825(a)text.news.virginmedia.com
>>> A friend's 6-month old notebook has failed. Needless to say, she has
>>> irreplaceable files on the drive for which she has no backup. The drive
>>> apparently won't spin up. She's had a estimated price for data recovery,
>>> but
>>> this is totally outside her budget. It occurred to me that, assuming she
>>> wants the notebook working again anyway, she could buy an identical
>>> replacement drive and try swapping the controller boards over to see it
>>> the
>>> fault was on the controller rather than the mech. Would this be a
>>> reasonable
>>> thing to try?
>>
>>> Or do the controllers have stuff like calibration info in
>>> flash that would render the idea non-feasible?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve S

> What?

Ignore this guy. Everubody else does.

Arno

From: Steve S (another one) on

"Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote >
> Very unpleasant situation, indeed. I would advise to store the
> drive safely (ESD bag, silica gel, sealed outer bag) and have
> it professionally recoverd when/if money becomes avaliable
> again. Attempting a board swap is probably a waste of money
> and a risk in addition.
>

I reckon you're right. I used to repair HP 7906 drives (10 megs fixed, 10
megs removable) down to component level occasionally. How times have
changed. At least you don't get a hernia lifting the drive these days,
though.

Steve S (another one)


From: Rod Speed on
Steve S (another one) <somebody(a)some.where.net> wrote:

> A friend's 6-month old notebook has failed. Needless to say, she has irreplaceable files on the drive for which she
> has no backup. The drive apparently won't spin up. She's had a estimated price for data recovery, but this is totally
> outside her budget. It occurred to me that, assuming she wants the notebook working again anyway, she could buy an
> identical replacement drive and try swapping the controller boards over to see it the fault was on the controller
> rather than the mech. Would this be a reasonable thing to try?

Yes, particularly if anything else is unaffordable.

Worth checking cheaper recovery operations first tho like
http://www.retrodata.co.uk/

The other obvious option is to keep the dead drive until the cheaper recovery
is affordable and trying a controller swap does reduce the chance of success.

> Or do the controllers have stuff like calibration info in flash that would render the idea non-feasible?

A few do, most dont. It isnt calibration data, but it does stop board swapping.


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