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From: Golan Klinger on 19 Apr 2008 02:58
worldlam wrote:

> I am done here thanks Peter for the help and I will not even donate it
> anymore.

There you have it. He will be back when he needs something else so it is
important that everyone remember this incident. Don't help him.

--
Golan Klinger
Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.

From: christianlott1 on 19 Apr 2008 03:36
On Apr 19, 1:58 am, Golan Klinger <n...(a)sp.am> wrote:
> worldlam wrote:

> > I am done here thanks Peter for the help and I will not even donate it
> > anymore.

> There you have it. He will be back when he needs something else so it is
> important that everyone remember this incident. Don't help him.
>

You're right Golan. The TVC D64 he even sent out doesn't run.
From: Joe Forster/STA on 19 Apr 2008 09:00
> How do you know its not mine? I bought the rights to it back in 1987
> and ran my own BBS with it.

What rights: exclusive use rights, full copyright? Or you yourself
wrote that half of the software? "How do I know?" Yeah, how _should_ I
know unless you tell me?

> Rick on the other hand selling 10,000+ copyright holder's stuff over
> state lines is a HUGE problem. That he says is public domain they are
> not.

That's only a matter of terminology. You're right, such software is
not public domain. It is called abandonware and there are many sites
publishing them for free. (Not only Commodore stuff, many other
platforms, too.) I repeat: for free. Does Rick have a pay site? Also,
does the "fact" that someome else illegally sells software allow to
you do the same? I think not.

> Especially the games which are still actively pursued by
> copyright holders.

There are always Dagobert ducks, to put it mildly, who believe that
even a 20-year-old software has financial value for anyone. See
http://cia.c64.org for a sad example but look into yourself, too. Are
you here for the money or to help people? If the former then you most
probably don't belong here anyway.
From: DanSolo on 20 Apr 2008 16:29
On Apr 19, 2:00 pm, "Joe Forster/STA" <s...(a)c64.org> wrote:
>http://cia.c64.org for a sad example

"Robert L. Hunter, IV". IV? Is he royalty or a freakin' clone?
From: Jerry Kurtz on 22 Apr 2008 20:15
On Apr 18, 5:10 pm, "Joe Forster/STA" <s...(a)c64.org> wrote:
> > You really are a piece of work, shipping games in
> > padded envelopes by default, that says to buyers "I don't think enough
> > of you to protect your purchase"
>
> I don't quite understand: what's wrong with padded envelopes? I sent
> more than a thousand of them out to all kinds of places and _none_ got
> damaged. Also, the seller probably offers to give a replacement if the
> package _does_ get damaged...

Shipping a game or program in a padded envelope is NOT the same as
shipping a cable or board. The program's box quite often gets crushed
when bubble mailers are used making a collectable game no longer worth
as much.

Trust me, I've had plenty of jackasses send me *mint* games in bubble
mailers only to have them arrive in crushed condition courtesy of the
postal system.

Jerry
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