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From: Michael Cecil on 10 Apr 2008 01:06
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:27:53 -0500, Terry <kilowatt(a)charter.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:04:34 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
><see_reply-to(a)myweb.nl> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Sudden loss of memory? Brainfart?
>>
>>>
>No need to introduce yourself.
>
>It is pretty easy to recognize the group troll.
>
>Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Nope. Not wrong. There are/were a number of them here. Long since
killfilled though.
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From: Arno Wagner on 10 Apr 2008 09:54
Previously Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2008 01:40:58 GMT, Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> put finger to
> keyboard and composed:

>>Previously Terry <kilowatt(a)charter.net> wrote:

>>> Here is what I have done.

>>> I am trying to add a SATA WD 750
>>
>>
>>> Everything was working fine. I added the 750 drive. It wouldn't
>>> work. It hangs the computer at boot. I went to WD support page and
>>> found this:
>>> http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faq...
>>
>>> I installed the jumper and the drive worked! I copied all the files I
>>> had on a 150G IDE drive to the new 750 drive. I then took the IDE
>>> hard drive out. I mounted the 750 in its place. Well it quit working
>>> again and started hanging at the boot screen.
>>
>>
>>> When I try to boot the PCI SATA controller reports
>>> WDC WD 5000 AAKS 00TMA 5 000 000
>>> WDC WD 7500 AAKS 00RBA < It hangs here

>>I would suggest that your PCI contoller has a size-limit,
>>likely 500GB in its BIOS. If som a BIOS update of the
>>controller card _could_ fix this, if one is available that
>>extends the size limit. The other option is getting a
>>new SATA controller that supports drives >500GB.
>>
>>Arno

> The OP has had his configuration working at least once, so I can't see
> how it could be a capacity issue.

Opps, sorry. I also meant to ask whether there may be different
controllers involved here? If niot, then you are right, of course.

Arno
From: Arno Wagner on 10 Apr 2008 09:55
Previously Terry <kilowatt(a)charter.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:04:34 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
> <see_reply-to(a)myweb.nl> wrote:


>>
>>Sudden loss of memory? Brainfart?
>>
>>>
> No need to introduce yourself.

> It is pretty easy to recognize the group troll.

> Someone correct me if I am wrong.

No need. Right on the mark.

Arno


From: Franc Zabkar on 10 Apr 2008 16:15
On 10 Apr 2008 13:54:49 GMT, Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> put finger
to keyboard and composed:

>Previously Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>> The OP has had his configuration working at least once, so I can't see
>> how it could be a capacity issue.
>
>Opps, sorry. I also meant to ask whether there may be different
>controllers involved here? If niot, then you are right, of course.
>
>Arno

AIUI, the OP has only one controller.

I'm curious as to whether the two WD models are electronically
identical, ie same PCB (and ICs) but different numbers of heads.

- Franc Zabkar
--
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From: Terry on 10 Apr 2008 19:22
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:11:29 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>On 9 Apr 2008 01:40:58 GMT, Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> put finger to
>keyboard and composed:
>
>>Previously Terry <kilowatt(a)charter.net> wrote:
>
>>> Here is what I have done.
>
>>> I am trying to add a SATA WD 750
>>
>>
>>> Everything was working fine. I added the 750 drive. It wouldn't
>>> work. It hangs the computer at boot. I went to WD support page and
>>> found this:
>>> http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faq...
>>
>>> I installed the jumper and the drive worked! I copied all the files I
>>> had on a 150G IDE drive to the new 750 drive. I then took the IDE
>>> hard drive out. I mounted the 750 in its place. Well it quit working
>>> again and started hanging at the boot screen.
>>
>>
>>> When I try to boot the PCI SATA controller reports
>>> WDC WD 5000 AAKS 00TMA 5 000 000
>>> WDC WD 7500 AAKS 00RBA < It hangs here
>
>>I would suggest that your PCI contoller has a size-limit,
>>likely 500GB in its BIOS. If som a BIOS update of the
>>controller card _could_ fix this, if one is available that
>>extends the size limit. The other option is getting a
>>new SATA controller that supports drives >500GB.
>>
>>Arno
>
>The OP has had his configuration working at least once, so I can't see
>how it could be a capacity issue.
>
>What I find strange, and which I mentioned in the other thread, is
>that, AFAICS, the BIOS would already have enough information to
>calculate the drive's capacity (the Identify Drive command would have
>retrieved a 512 byte block containing model number, CHS, LBA, etc),
>but it hangs at this point. I suggested that maybe the BIOS was
>testing the drive's SMART status before reporting its capacity. Maybe
>disabling SMART in the BIOS setup would allow the POST to progress to
>the next stage ???
>
>- Franc Zabkar

I checked the Bios for any SMART settings and didn't find any.
Because of this suggestion, I did try booting with failsafe options,
but it still hangs at boot.

I went to SI's web page to try to find a bios upgrade. I found
several drivers. I didn't download any because there were too many
choices for my small brain.

I assume that any driver I would have selected wouldn't make any
difference anyway because the boot never gets that far anyway.

I have never tried to upgrade a bios but I didn't find anything
anyway.

Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

I guess the only thing left to do is get another controller.

The cards on the bottom of the drives are not the same.

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