From: Tony on
I have gotten 5 drives and 4 of them failed within an hour. Yes, the
warranty replacements gotten directly from Seagate failed just like the
orginal 2 new ones purchased from an online retailer. One of the original
warranty replacements is still working, though I'm not really using it yet
other than loading Windows and testing configs. The model is ST3320613AS.
Has anyone the inside scoop on what the problem with these drives is/are and
whether or not it affects all 7200.11 drives or just the 320 GB model?

(Aside: I bought the original 2 drives for a desktop RAID 0 setup but
there's no way I'd use these drives in anything less than a RAID 1 setup now
because of their proven unreliability).

Tony

From: Rod Speed on
Tony <MyEmail(a)my.isp.net> wrote:

> I have gotten 5 drives and 4 of them failed within an hour. Yes, the warranty replacements gotten directly from
> Seagate failed just like the orginal 2 new ones purchased from an online retailer.

Then the system you were installing them in was killing them.

> One of the original warranty replacements is still working,

All that proves is that what killed the others doesnt kill all drives.

> though I'm not really using it yet other than loading Windows and testing configs. The model is ST3320613AS. Has
> anyone the inside scoop on what the problem with these drives is/are

The system you are putting them in is killing them.

> and whether or not it affects all 7200.11 drives or just the 320 GB model?

Its cant be either of those. If they were all failing at
anything like that rate, the sellers would know about that.

> (Aside: I bought the original 2 drives for a desktop RAID 0 setup but there's no way I'd use these drives in anything
> less than a RAID 1 setup now because of their proven unreliability).

Its the unreliability of the system you put them in thats proven.

And if you want a high reliability, they need to be in separate systems.


From: Arno Wagner on
Previously Tony <MyEmail(a)my.isp.net> wrote:
> I have gotten 5 drives and 4 of them failed within an hour. Yes, the
> warranty replacements gotten directly from Seagate failed just like the
> orginal 2 new ones purchased from an online retailer. One of the original
> warranty replacements is still working, though I'm not really using it yet
> other than loading Windows and testing configs. The model is ST3320613AS.
> Has anyone the inside scoop on what the problem with these drives is/are and
> whether or not it affects all 7200.11 drives or just the 320 GB model?

> (Aside: I bought the original 2 drives for a desktop RAID 0 setup but
> there's no way I'd use these drives in anything less than a RAID 1 setup now
> because of their proven unreliability).

> Tony

It seems that when Segate started manufacuring ih China, their
quality went to hell. Currently Seagate has a clear "stay away"
attached. It seems Samsung and Hitachi are currently the
way to go. That may aof course change at any time.

Arno
From: Tony on

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tony <MyEmail(a)my.isp.net> wrote:
>
>> I have gotten 5 drives and 4 of them failed within an hour. Yes, the
>> warranty replacements gotten directly from Seagate failed just like the
>> orginal 2 new ones purchased from an online retailer.
>
> Then the system you were installing them in was killing them.

You mean my provenably reliable desktop that I have used for years all of a
sudden picks and chooses to destroy 7200.11 drives but not my Maxtor SATA or
Segate PATA drive or other drives I've had in it? I regularly SATA and PATA
drives in this machine to test and setup other users' machines. So, given
all the data of users experiencing high failure rates, you actually came to
the conclusion that my system is bad? Totally bizarre, dude.

>
>> One of the original warranty replacements is still working,
>
> All that proves is that what killed the others doesnt kill all drives.
>
>> though I'm not really using it yet other than loading Windows and testing
>> configs. The model is ST3320613AS. Has anyone the inside scoop on what
>> the problem with these drives is/are
>
> The system you are putting them in is killing them.
>
>> and whether or not it affects all 7200.11 drives or just the 320 GB
>> model?
>
> Its cant be either of those. If they were all failing at
> anything like that rate, the sellers would know about that.

Check out the product reviews at NewEgg. I think the latest reviewer notes
that he went through 8 drives looking for 2 good ones. Check it out.
Something is up with these drives.

>
>> (Aside: I bought the original 2 drives for a desktop RAID 0 setup but
>> there's no way I'd use these drives in anything less than a RAID 1 setup
>> now because of their proven unreliability).
>
> Its the unreliability of the system you put them in thats proven.

That's not a logical conclusion given the existing information.

Tony

From: Tony on

"Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
news:6die54F2k767U2(a)mid.individual.net...
> Previously Tony <MyEmail(a)my.isp.net> wrote:
>> I have gotten 5 drives and 4 of them failed within an hour. Yes, the
>> warranty replacements gotten directly from Seagate failed just like the
>> orginal 2 new ones purchased from an online retailer. One of the original
>> warranty replacements is still working, though I'm not really using it
>> yet
>> other than loading Windows and testing configs. The model is ST3320613AS.
>> Has anyone the inside scoop on what the problem with these drives is/are
>> and
>> whether or not it affects all 7200.11 drives or just the 320 GB model?
>
>> (Aside: I bought the original 2 drives for a desktop RAID 0 setup but
>> there's no way I'd use these drives in anything less than a RAID 1 setup
>> now
>> because of their proven unreliability).
>
>> Tony
>
> It seems that when Segate started manufacuring ih China, their
> quality went to hell. Currently Seagate has a clear "stay away"
> attached. It seems Samsung and Hitachi are currently the
> way to go. That may aof course change at any time.

The 250 GB 7200.10 drive is getting rave reviews. Has there been a
manufacturing location change between the time of 7200.10 and 7200.11
drives? If so, then you may be onto something.

Tony