From: Baudouin de Spa on

"Bob Fry" <bobfry(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> "M" == Matt <mattb95(a)hotmail.com> writes:
>
> M> Will all applications for Windows eventually become
> M> multi-threaded and fully utilise a quad core setup?
>
> Sure. About the time Windows itself becomes stable and bug-free.
>
> What sort of apps are you running? At the moment, off-hand I think
> only very specialized parallelized, shared-memory numerical apps will
> truly take advantage of multiple cores. Or if you are running several
> apps at a time that use cpu then multiple cores will help. Otherwise
> I'd go for the faster clock rate.
> --
> The citizen who sees his society's democratic clothes being worn out
> and does not cry it out, is not a patriot, but a traitor.
> ~ Mark Twain

Have a look at this comparison:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600.html

and this one:
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3038&p=8

Sorry if someone already mentionned this.


From: Patrick Vervoorn on
In article <477f2fd4$0$29257$ba620e4c(a)news.skynet.be>,
Baudouin de Spa <baudouin.despa(a)skynet.be> wrote:

[snip]

>Have a look at this comparison:
>http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600.html
>
>and this one:
>http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3038&p=8
>
>Sorry if someone already mentionned this.

Not that I know. It's also comparisons like these (but not these
specifcally) which I ran into when researching myself a few months ago,
that prompted me to buy a Q6600 instead of an E6850.

Of course, all depends on future games and/or game-engines supporting more
than 2 cores. If they do (and if the Q6600 has been sold a lot of times
that will help), then the Q6600 will be the better long-term choice than
the E6850.

Short-term the E6850 is probably the faster choice, so if you expect or
are planning to swap out your CPU in about half a year, then perhaps
that's the better choice.

Regards, Patrick.
From: John Weiss on
"Matt" <m.p.boulton(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote...
>
> Basically, if I can overclock the Q6600 to 3.0GHz using a 1333MHz FSB, using
> only the stock cooler, without reducing the life of the chip; then I will get
> the Q6600.
>
> Is this possible?

You'll have to monitor the temps and decide whether you can live with the
increase. You'll also have to find out if the system is stable at that speed.

While it is "possible," I believe there is significant risk that it might not
work well in any random system. If the case and gfx cooling are top-notch, you
may have a better chance of success. If either are marginal, leaving too much
heat inside the case, it probably won't work.

Also, remember that this is winter. If your room is significantly warmer in the
summer, factor that in your assessment...


From: Phil Weldon on
'Matt' wrote:
| I would say I'm open to swapping the CPU I get for a new one in the
| future, but not that soon.
|
| Basically, if I can overclock the Q6600 to 3.0GHz using a 1333MHz FSB,
| using only the stock cooler, without reducing the life of the chip; then
| I will get the Q6600.
|
| Is this possible?
_____

Yes. See alt.comp.hardware.overclocking .

Phil Weldon

"Matt" <m.p.boulton(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:fltpjm$rah$1(a)heffalump.dur.ac.uk...
|> Short-term the E6850 is probably the faster choice, so if you expect or
| > are planning to swap out your CPU in about half a year, then perhaps
| > that's the better choice.
|
| I would say I'm open to swapping the CPU I get for a new one in the
| future, but not that soon.
|
| Basically, if I can overclock the Q6600 to 3.0GHz using a 1333MHz FSB,
| using only the stock cooler, without reducing the life of the chip; then
| I will get the Q6600.
|
| Is this possible?
|
| Kind Regards,
|
| Matt


From: Gypsy Baron on
Matt wrote:
>
> > Short-term the E6850 is probably the faster choice, so if you expect or
> > are planning to swap out your CPU in about half a year, then perhaps
> > that's the better choice.
>
> I would say I'm open to swapping the CPU I get for a new one in the
> future, but not that soon.
>
> Basically, if I can overclock the Q6600 to 3.0GHz using a 1333MHz FSB,
> using only the stock cooler, without reducing the life of the chip; then
> I will get the Q6600.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Matt

The Q6600 G0 stepping is easily overclocked to 3.0 GHZ.
I run mine at 3.2 Ghz on air cooling and my temps when
under extreme load ( Prime95 ) never approach the max within
10C. Under my normal load the temps are 20-25C below the max.

Paul