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From: Ivor Jones on 25 Feb 2005 19:01 Gareth wrote: > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message > news:389gefF5jg98bU2(a)individual.net... >> Gareth wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> You are confusing 2 issues - ownership of the physical SIM card >>> (which has been sold according to the Sale of Goods Act) and the >>> service it may or may not allow you to access according to a set >>> of T&Cs (a contract). >> >> I'm not confusing anything. The T&C's state something in direct >> terms. You agree to those terms when you use the network. >> >> End of story. > > I see that trying to debate the distinction between consumer rights > and T&Cs with you is a pointless exercise. > > Gareth. Trying to argue against something you have agreed to (by using the network) is indeed pointless. Goodbye. Ivor
From: Luap on 26 Feb 2005 04:12 Ivor Jones wrote: > Gareth wrote: > >>"Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >>news:389gefF5jg98bU2(a)individual.net... >> >>>Gareth wrote: >>> >>>[snip] >>> >>> >>>>You are confusing 2 issues - ownership of the physical SIM card >>>>(which has been sold according to the Sale of Goods Act) and the >>>>service it may or may not allow you to access according to a set >>>>of T&Cs (a contract). >>> >>>I'm not confusing anything. The T&C's state something in direct >>>terms. You agree to those terms when you use the network. >>> >>>End of story. >> >>I see that trying to debate the distinction between consumer rights >>and T&Cs with you is a pointless exercise. >> >>Gareth. > > > Trying to argue against something you have agreed to (by using the > network) is indeed pointless. > > Goodbye. > > Ivor > > TROLLS
From: Luap on 26 Feb 2005 04:20 Ivor Jones wrote: > Luap wrote: > > [snip] > > >>I've never signed anything on PAYG >>Lua > > > You don't have to sign a contract for it to be legally binding. Simply > using the service is enough. > > Ivor > And if I want to sell the SIM, how they going to enforce (ie. stop me)? They don't know where I live or who I am, only the people I have called. Lua
From: Jon on 26 Feb 2005 12:04 Gareth reckoned that... > Bollocks. The SIM remains the property of the network at all times, this is a fact. They are simply lending it to you to access their network and services. They can ask for it back at at any time. In reality, they never do of course, but it doesn't change the facts. -- www.unlockingshop.co.uk change 'spam' to 'info' to email Motorola V3 Razr unlocking by post - ý15
From: Rufus Stone on 27 Feb 2005 03:29
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:04:05 -0000, Jon <spam(a)unlockingshop.co.uk> wrote: >The SIM remains the property of the network at all times, this is a >fact. They are simply lending it to you to access their network and >services. Much like whether you or the Council own 'your' wheelie-bin? ;-0 R. |