From: Sally Thompson on
I have migrated from an old Windows PC to a new iMac G5, and I have a lot of
information in a very old (but working) copy of MS Access on the old PC. I
have been looking for a Mac replacement, but am told that the basic database
in Appleworks is not a relational one and I do need this function. I have
just looked at Filemaker Pro which is relational, but is very expensive and
probably over the top for my needs. Being new to a Mac, I don't really know
which software is good. Could anyone suggest some others I might look at?
Preferably with a free trial so that I could check that it's what I want.

The sorts of things I currently use Access for include a (very large) book
catalogue, tables of family history searches which inter-relate, addresses
which I can run queries on to sort into different reports for mailing labels
and address books and so on.

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From: matt neuburg on
Sally Thompson <sallynewsgroup(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I have migrated from an old Windows PC to a new iMac G5, and I have a lot of
> information in a very old (but working) copy of MS Access on the old PC. I
> have been looking for a Mac replacement, but am told that the basic database
> in Appleworks is not a relational one and I do need this function. I have
> just looked at Filemaker Pro which is relational, but is very expensive and
> probably over the top for my needs. Being new to a Mac, I don't really know
> which software is good. Could anyone suggest some others I might look at?
> Preferably with a free trial so that I could check that it's what I want.
>
> The sorts of things I currently use Access for include a (very large) book
> catalogue, tables of family history searches which inter-relate, addresses
> which I can run queries on to sort into different reports for mailing labels
> and address books and so on.

If you're willing to learn SQL and do a little thinking, you can use
MySQL or PostgreSQL, which are rock-solid, lightning-fast, truly
relational, and free. If the command line scares you, there is a nice
free graphical front end to MySQL:

<http://cocoamysql.sourceforge.net/>

Marc Liyanage's site helps you install either MySQL or PostreSQL:

http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/

m.


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From: ard on
matt neuburg <matt(a)tidbits.com> wrote:

> Sally Thompson <sallynewsgroup(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > <...> Being new to a Mac, I don't really know
> > which software is good. Could anyone suggest some others I might look at?
> > Preferably with a free trial so that I could check that it's what I want.

<http://www.filemakertrial.com>

> > The sorts of things I currently use Access for include a (very large) book
> > catalogue, tables of family history searches which inter-relate, addresses
> > which I can run queries on to sort into different reports for mailing labels
> > and address books and so on.
>
> If you're willing to learn SQL and do a little thinking, you can use
> MySQL or PostgreSQL

But don't complain about 'Mac' if you don't like *SQL; imho it is more
for people that would choose linux as an alternative to PC (assuming
that you came from PC and be new to mac that way).
If you are in the educational department, it seems FM has offers for
about half the business price.FileMaker can be found 'second hand' (new
in box, over stock, etc.) version 5.5 in some places for a reasonable
price. 5.5 runs under mac os X.
FM is about what databases on a mac should look like. IMHO, of course.

ard
From: Dave Hinz on
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:39:51 +0100, ard <ardpuntjonkeratxs4allpuntnl(a)b.c> wrote:
> matt neuburg <matt(a)tidbits.com> wrote:

>> If you're willing to learn SQL and do a little thinking, you can use
>> MySQL or PostgreSQL

> But don't complain about 'Mac' if you don't like *SQL; imho it is more
> for people that would choose linux as an alternative to PC (assuming
> that you came from PC and be new to mac that way).

Um, what? I've read that 3 times and can't work out what your point is.
A PC, for instance, is the hardware, so the OS Linux isn't an
alternative to a hardware platform. What are you trying to say?

> FM is about what databases on a mac should look like. IMHO, of course.

Databases "look like" something? I thought the presentation layer is
what does the looking-like, and the database is what, you know, stores
data.
From: Sally Thompson on
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:25:22 +0000, matt neuburg wrote
(in article <1h9yzq0.1p0oaxy7unszkN%matt(a)tidbits.com>):

> Sally Thompson <sallynewsgroup(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I have migrated from an old Windows PC to a new iMac G5, and I have a lot of
>> information in a very old (but working) copy of MS Access on the old PC. I
>> have been looking for a Mac replacement, but am told that the basic database
>> in Appleworks is not a relational one and I do need this function. I have
>> just looked at Filemaker Pro which is relational, but is very expensive and
>> probably over the top for my needs. Being new to a Mac, I don't really know
>> which software is good. Could anyone suggest some others I might look at?
>> Preferably with a free trial so that I could check that it's what I want.
>>
>> The sorts of things I currently use Access for include a (very large) book
>> catalogue, tables of family history searches which inter-relate, addresses
>> which I can run queries on to sort into different reports for mailing labels
>> and address books and so on.
>
> If you're willing to learn SQL and do a little thinking, you can use
> MySQL or PostgreSQL, which are rock-solid, lightning-fast, truly
> relational, and free. If the command line scares you, there is a nice
> free graphical front end to MySQL:
>
> <http://cocoamysql.sourceforge.net/>
>
> Marc Liyanage's site helps you install either MySQL or PostreSQL:
>
> http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/


Thanks for the links. I'm willing to learn, but not sure of my capabilities
<g>. I will look at these tomorrow.

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Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk