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From: Kay on 14 May 2008 03:29
Dear all,

I asked many questions in the past and some aimed to solve my resource
management desires.
As you stated rightly and as it looks to me right now, project is not
ideally suited to manage resources.
When you run bigger projects etc it might be fine but with the
juggling here it is some kind of hazzle when I only want to see my
resource utilitsation. Often my guys are not working in projects but
do single tasks.
Can you recommend a good resource management tool?
Ideally it could read the resource usage from MSP and then I can add
the other tasks.
I need to do forecasting and see when my resources are utilised how
much and how much
person days are not utilised and I can offer to my customers for
additional tasks.

Thanks
Kay
From: Trevor Rabey on 14 May 2008 06:16
Who said "project is not ideally suited to manage resources"?
What was the context, which post?

I ask because I doubt that such a thing would be said here.

Trevor Rabey 0407213955 61 8 92727485 PERFECT PROJECT PLANNING
www.perfectproject.com.au
"Kay" <kay_schulz(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Dear all,
>
> I asked many questions in the past and some aimed to solve my resource
> management desires.
> As you stated rightly and as it looks to me right now, project is not
> ideally suited to manage resources.
> When you run bigger projects etc it might be fine but with the
> juggling here it is some kind of hazzle when I only want to see my
> resource utilitsation. Often my guys are not working in projects but
> do single tasks.
> Can you recommend a good resource management tool?
> Ideally it could read the resource usage from MSP and then I can add
> the other tasks.
> I need to do forecasting and see when my resources are utilised how
> much and how much
> person days are not utilised and I can offer to my customers for
> additional tasks.
>
> Thanks
> Kay


From: Jan De Messemaeker on 14 May 2008 06:50
Hi Trevor,

I can't remember such a thing being said here indeed, but I do know several
of my potential customers claim the same. Too long to explain, but Project's
method of planning ois contre-aruy to what most people call "resource
management". What they want is a flexible version of Project Server's
"Resource Substitution" logic, a system that tells them who to put onto
which task - or even project-, thereby "optimizing" resource load.

Hope this helps,

--
Jan De Messemaeker
Microsoft Project Most Valuable Professional
+32 495 300 620
For availability check:
http://users.online.be/prom-ade/Calendar.pdf
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> Who said "project is not ideally suited to manage resources"?
> What was the context, which post?
>
> I ask because I doubt that such a thing would be said here.
>
> Trevor Rabey 0407213955 61 8 92727485 PERFECT PROJECT PLANNING
> www.perfectproject.com.au
> "Kay" <kay_schulz(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:b86a7ad7-ec5f-40f2-adf1-1f1f0af5069e(a)y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I asked many questions in the past and some aimed to solve my resource
>> management desires.
>> As you stated rightly and as it looks to me right now, project is not
>> ideally suited to manage resources.
>> When you run bigger projects etc it might be fine but with the
>> juggling here it is some kind of hazzle when I only want to see my
>> resource utilitsation. Often my guys are not working in projects but
>> do single tasks.
>> Can you recommend a good resource management tool?
>> Ideally it could read the resource usage from MSP and then I can add
>> the other tasks.
>> I need to do forecasting and see when my resources are utilised how
>> much and how much
>> person days are not utilised and I can offer to my customers for
>> additional tasks.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Kay
>
>


From: Kay on 14 May 2008 07:19
> Who said "project is not ideally suited to manage resources"?
> What was the context, which post?
>
> I ask because I doubt that such a thing would be said here.

Hi
on the 12th of February JulieS said:
"
Hello Kay,

Pardon me for bumping in here, but I personally would question why
bother to enter the "Other" task at all. Project is not ideally
designed to capture everything a resource is doing during the working
day. If resources A & B are available only 70-80% of an average
working day, why not just assign them at a maximum of 70% to 80% to
the tasks in the project that you wish to manage and track.


I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along.


Julie
Project MVP
"

That's how I came to the conclusion

Regards
Kay
From: Kay on 14 May 2008 07:20
Hi Jan,
see my other answer.

> Hi Trevor,
Trevor?

>
> I can't remember such a thing being said here indeed, but I do know several
> of my potential customers claim the same. Too long to explain, but Project's
> method of planning ois contre-aruy to what most people call "resource
> management". What they want is a flexible version of Project Server's
> "Resource Substitution" logic, a system that tells them who to put onto
> which task - or even project-, thereby "optimizing" resource load.
>
I only have project standard or can get project prof.
that's all.
And I am struggling to find out how many person days I have available
from
dd-mm-yyyy to dd-mm-yyyy

And other things

Kay
> Hope this helps,
>
> --
> Jan De Messemaeker
> Microsoft Project Most Valuable Professional
> +32 495 300 620
> For availability check:http://users.online.be/prom-ade/Calendar.pdf"Trevor Rabey" <tra...(a)nospam.westnet.com.au> wrote in message
>
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