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From: Rick Paul on 1 Feb 2008 19:59
And now for something completely different.... (for me, at least):

I finally finished a recording of the piece I wrote as my guinea pig project
for the Garritan Concert & Marching Band review. It's called "Primary
March" (double entendre on the political season and its being the first,
and, to date, only, march I've written), and it can be found on SoundClick
at:

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6228101

This was recorded under SONAR 7.0.1 and 7.0.2, and only uses Garritan CMB
instruments. Other processing, only on the mix bus, comes from PSP
MixSaturator, PSP MixTreble, Cakewalk PerfectSpace, PSP VintageWarmer, and
PSP Xenon.

Out of the 300+ songs I've written, this is only the second one that doesn't
have lyrics. ;-)

Rick
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Rick Paul
Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP)
Web: www.RickPaul.info
MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic
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From: Max Arwood on 1 Feb 2008 21:20
I just want to know who's the guy in to photo buy your song holding that
clarinet? <g> The only thing I hear odd about this is that the snare drums
are out side marching and everyone else is inside! I was trying to describe
the way it sounded .... like the snare samples were to represent snare
drummers out on the field. The other instruments seem to be much closer.
Also, I'm not sure if my speakers are wired correctly or not...... The snare
drums are on the left in my studio???? Oh yes the song... No lyrics you
say?, are you feeling ok? Just kidding, I like the march, I can picture a
band playing this. It does not sound too hard for the instrumentalist to
perform, so I could picture a high school band marching on the field at
halftime. The fans cheering as they marched to different patterns on the
field. Nice song, even if it doesn't have any lyrics. <g>

Max Arwood


"Rick Paul" <rickpaul(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:13q7g3vj4kldg70(a)corp.supernews.com...
> And now for something completely different.... (for me, at least):
>
> I finally finished a recording of the piece I wrote as my guinea pig
> project for the Garritan Concert & Marching Band review. It's called
> "Primary March" (double entendre on the political season and its being the
> first, and, to date, only, march I've written), and it can be found on
> SoundClick at:
>
> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6228101
>
> This was recorded under SONAR 7.0.1 and 7.0.2, and only uses Garritan CMB
> instruments. Other processing, only on the mix bus, comes from PSP
> MixSaturator, PSP MixTreble, Cakewalk PerfectSpace, PSP VintageWarmer, and
> PSP Xenon.
>
> Out of the 300+ songs I've written, this is only the second one that
> doesn't have lyrics. ;-)
>
> Rick
> --
> =======================================
> Rick Paul
> Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP)
> Web: www.RickPaul.info
> MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic
> =======================================
>
>


From: Rick Paul on 2 Feb 2008 04:08
Thanks Max.

I am still possibly going to revisit the mix on this at a later time, but I
needed to get it to a breaking point so I could get doing some other things
after working on this for far too long already. At least the other stuff I
still need to do on it is more in my bailiwick.

It's interesting your note on the snare drums. Those, the bass drums, and
the tenor drums are all from the TapSpace Virtual DrumLine components that
are included in the Garritan package. The rest, including the cymbals, are
Garritan originals. At this stage, I did not do any separate processing of
any of the parts, but only used them as they were set up in the Multis for
parts 1 and 2 of the Marching Band preset multi. It was more a matter of
needing to take time to consider what, if anything else, might be needed,
which I figured I could leave until later on, if I ever got that far... I
didn't even change panning or volume levels from the presets, other than to
the degree that volume levels are affected by riding the mod wheel for the
wind instruments, which I did record and/or automate, depending on the
individual part. I really hadn't even stopped to think about what natural
position for this kind of ensemble might be, no less about the possibility
of the VDL and Garritan stuff being in separate spaces, though I did note
that the programming of the VDL stuff was quite different from normal
Garritan style. It might well be that the VDL stuff is indeed meant to
sound like it is out in the field, though it would then be curious that you
singled out the snares, but not the tenor drums or bass drums, both of which
are from "drumline" presets. In any event, what I will probably need to do
is separate like groups into different outputs from KONTAKT 2, then process
them differently in SONAR to make up for any differences of this sort.

Panning is another thing I hadn't really considered at all, and, in fact,
more or less just assumed the Garritan multi might be likely to address.
There were a few things that struck my ears as a bit unusual, such as the
tenor drums being quite far on the right. I don't remember noticing the
snares being all on one side, but I am also wondering if may be what you
were hearing as snares may have been the tenor drums, which would mean your
and my speakers are opposite directions of one another, if so -- are you in
the UK or Australia? :-) (The higher ones sounded more like what I think of
snares sounding like than the snare drum sample did. I mentioned something
about my take on the snare drum sound versus my perceptions of a snare drum
sound in my review of the library, too.) In any event, with respect to
panning in general, I also wasn't really sure where the various instruments
should be located as the instrumentation in that particular multi is fairly
different from what my old high school band had, and, even if it weren't,
that was so long ago that I don't remember where everyone sat, no less how
positions changed when in a parade or on a football field.

With respect to the complexity or lack thereof, while I wasn't intentionally
writing for any specific level -- I started out just doodling in coming up
with most of the main lines in there -- I also had the same impression as
you. The most complex part is the flute and piccolo part, but, if high
school musicians today are on par with the ones back when I went to school,
I'm reasonably confident they should be able to handle that. And most of
the other parts are pretty easy unless they may happen to fall in a tough
range for the specific instrument, or get to some very strange fingering
challenges (e.g. a trill on a note that is virtually untrillable on that
specific instrument -- but I think I at least considered this aspect for the
clarinets).

Oh yeah, and the kid with the clarinet is, as you probably suspected, me --
a very long time ago. There wasn't a date on the photo, but my best guess
would be somewhere between 1976 and 1978 since 76/77 and 77/78 were my
junior and senior years, respectively, in high school. Yep, I was a band
geek. ;-)

Rick
--
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Rick Paul
Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP)
Web: www.RickPaul.info
MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic
=======================================

"Max Arwood" <marwoodNOSPAM(a)hnb.com> wrote in message
news:yrQoj.10107$hI1.4722(a)nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>I just want to know who's the guy in to photo buy your song holding that
>clarinet? <g> The only thing I hear odd about this is that the snare drums
>are out side marching and everyone else is inside! I was trying to
>describe the way it sounded .... like the snare samples were to represent
>snare drummers out on the field. The other instruments seem to be much
>closer. Also, I'm not sure if my speakers are wired correctly or not......
>The snare drums are on the left in my studio???? Oh yes the song... No
>lyrics you say?, are you feeling ok? Just kidding, I like the march, I can
>picture a band playing this. It does not sound too hard for the
>instrumentalist to perform, so I could picture a high school band marching
>on the field at halftime. The fans cheering as they marched to different
>patterns on the field. Nice song, even if it doesn't have any lyrics. <g>
>
> Max Arwood
>
>
> "Rick Paul" <rickpaul(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13q7g3vj4kldg70(a)corp.supernews.com...
>> And now for something completely different.... (for me, at least):
>>
>> I finally finished a recording of the piece I wrote as my guinea pig
>> project for the Garritan Concert & Marching Band review. It's called
>> "Primary March" (double entendre on the political season and its being
>> the first, and, to date, only, march I've written), and it can be found
>> on SoundClick at:
>>
>> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6228101
>>
>> This was recorded under SONAR 7.0.1 and 7.0.2, and only uses Garritan CMB
>> instruments. Other processing, only on the mix bus, comes from PSP
>> MixSaturator, PSP MixTreble, Cakewalk PerfectSpace, PSP VintageWarmer,
>> and PSP Xenon.
>>
>> Out of the 300+ songs I've written, this is only the second one that
>> doesn't have lyrics. ;-)
>>
>> Rick
>> --
>> =======================================
>> Rick Paul
>> Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP)
>> Web: www.RickPaul.info
>> MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic
>> =======================================
>>
>>
>
>


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