From: Patty on
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 06:34:57 GMT, John Doe wrote:
>
> If you can do MSN messenger, put me on your contact list.
> I can figure out what is wrong using NetMeeting...
> lshaping hotmail com

I have MSN Messenger, but this particular computer is not online and
doesn't have a NIC card in it to connect to my internet.

Patty
From: Patty on
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:26:52 -0000, Conor wrote:

> In article <fton63i9wh2h$.9qxgqgeoj4gi$.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Patty says...
>
>> Both the joystick and the IDE show up correctly in Device Manager. There's
>> got to be something else since both those show up. Windows lets you ignore
>> the Unknown Device and appears to work properly, I was just trying to
>> figure out what else it could be. Thanks.
>>
> Are you sure its the IDE controller on the card? Do you have two actual
> CONTROLLERS, not a primary and secondary, listed?

Specs that I have found online for the card report the IDE connector (which
is marked on the card is is very obvious as to what it is because of size,
number of pins, etc.), a WaveBlaster daughter board connector and a Modem
feature connector. There is another set of pins on the card that are
similar to the IDE connector, but it has fewer pins so it is shorter in
length. I could not find a marking on the card indicating what it is for.
Perhaps the Daughter board connector or Modem feature connector is the
culprit? I'm wondering if I upgrade or install drivers in Device Manager
and point the Unknown Device to the files in the drivers file I downloaded,
will Windows know what .inf file it's looking for or will it just pick the
first one it finds?

Patty
From: Patty on
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 06:34:57 GMT, John Doe wrote:

>
> If you can do MSN messenger, put me on your contact list.
> I can figure out what is wrong using NetMeeting...
> lshaping hotmail com

This is interesting. In the notes for the updated driver software that I
downloaded from the Creative website it says:

> Rev 7 [9 Dec 96]
>
> 1. Includes Vibra16CL and AWE64 support.
>
> 2. Solves the Unknown Device problem in Device Manager.

So, why wouldn't Windows 98SE have this update already in their software
drivers (it's from December 1996)? I'll install this update and see if it
fixes the problem. I'll let you know if it does.

Thanks.

Patty
From: JAD on
IDE CONNECTOR = CD-ROM controller, used often in the olden days. ISA
or PCI?



"Patty" <patty15NOSPAM(a)softhome.net> wrote in message
news:1fiprw784lwxw$.ajifeaaou5en.dlg(a)40tude.net...
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:26:52 -0000, Conor wrote:
>
> > In article <fton63i9wh2h$.9qxgqgeoj4gi$.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Patty
says...
> >
> >> Both the joystick and the IDE show up correctly in Device
Manager. There's
> >> got to be something else since both those show up. Windows lets
you ignore
> >> the Unknown Device and appears to work properly, I was just
trying to
> >> figure out what else it could be. Thanks.
> >>
> > Are you sure its the IDE controller on the card? Do you have two
actual
> > CONTROLLERS, not a primary and secondary, listed?
>
> Specs that I have found online for the card report the IDE connector
(which
> is marked on the card is is very obvious as to what it is because of
size,
> number of pins, etc.), a WaveBlaster daughter board connector and a
Modem
> feature connector. There is another set of pins on the card that
are
> similar to the IDE connector, but it has fewer pins so it is shorter
in
> length. I could not find a marking on the card indicating what it
is for.
> Perhaps the Daughter board connector or Modem feature connector is
the
> culprit? I'm wondering if I upgrade or install drivers in Device
Manager
> and point the Unknown Device to the files in the drivers file I
downloaded,
> will Windows know what .inf file it's looking for or will it just
pick the
> first one it finds?
>
> Patty


From: Patty on
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:50:52 -0800, JAD wrote:

> IDE CONNECTOR = CD-ROM controller, used often in the olden days. ISA
> or PCI?
>

ISA card. Yes, I remember when CD-ROMS weren't standard and some cards had
connectors for particular brands of CD-ROMS. This was in the very, very
early days before everyone settled on standard IDE.

The problems with the card have been fixed. The updated drivers took care
of the Unknown Device problem in Device Manager but I still have the
Creative IDE Controller listed under Hard Disk Controllers, but I can't
figure any way to get rid of it, since there are no jumpers on the board to
disable the IDE connector (controller).

But, it works and Windows seems happy.

Patty