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From: AES on 22 Apr 2008 00:52 In article <nobody-047D78.19330821042008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com>, John Rethorst <nobody(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > I�d seen anti-Google Groups stuff before and ignored it. I use a dedicated > newsgroups reader (MT-Newswatcher on Mac) but was never enough of a purist to > care if others posted via Google or not. But the spam was getting to me. So I > followed its instructions and added a filter to Newswatcher: Kill if > Message-ID > contains �googlegroups.com�. > > Presto. The spam is gone. Some authentic, quality posts may be gone too; I > don�t > know, thus I post this. I�m sorry if I miss the value that you add to this > group, but I need to keep this filter. > Suggestion: Initially at least, don't kill Google Groups posts, just have your filter highlight them. Then for a week or two, scan the highlighted Subject: lines in each newsgroup window when you first open it. You'll soon get a feeling for the ratio of spam to useful messages in these highlighted posts. My impressions were that this ratio varied quite a bit from newsgroup to newsgroup; could change quite a bit from day to day; and overall was far from fully spam, so that just killing all GG posts was a fairly blunt approach.
From: Kevin McMurtrie on 22 Apr 2008 04:24 In article <siegman-056072.21524621042008(a)nntp.stanford.edu>, AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > In article <nobody-047D78.19330821042008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com>, > John Rethorst <nobody(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > > > I�d seen anti-Google Groups stuff before and ignored it. I use a dedicated > > newsgroups reader (MT-Newswatcher on Mac) but was never enough of a purist > > to > > care if others posted via Google or not. But the spam was getting to me. So > > I > > followed its instructions and added a filter to Newswatcher: Kill if > > Message-ID > > contains �googlegroups.com�. > > > > Presto. The spam is gone. Some authentic, quality posts may be gone too; I > > don�t > > know, thus I post this. I�m sorry if I miss the value that you add to this > > group, but I need to keep this filter. > > > > Suggestion: Initially at least, don't kill Google Groups posts, just > have your filter highlight them. Then for a week or two, scan the > highlighted Subject: lines in each newsgroup window when you first open > it. You'll soon get a feeling for the ratio of spam to useful messages > in these highlighted posts. My impressions were that this ratio varied > quite a bit from newsgroup to newsgroup; could change quite a bit from > day to day; and overall was far from fully spam, so that just killing > all GG posts was a fairly blunt approach. Some groups get hundreds of Google spams a day. The ratio doesn't matter. All of Google has to be blocked to use the group. -- Block Google's spam and enjoy Usenet again. Reply with Google and I won't hear from you.
From: Kit on 22 Apr 2008 05:06 In article <siegman-056072.21524621042008(a)nntp.stanford.edu>, AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > In article <nobody-047D78.19330821042008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com>, > John Rethorst <nobody(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > > followed its instructions and added a filter to Newswatcher: Kill if > > Message-ID > > contains �googlegroups.com�. > > > > Presto. The spam is gone. Some authentic, quality posts may be gone too; I > > don�t > > know, thus I post this. I�m sorry if I miss the value that you add to this > > group, but I need to keep this filter. > > > > Suggestion: Initially at least, don't kill Google Groups posts, just > have your filter highlight them. Then for a week or two, scan the > highlighted Subject: lines in each newsgroup window when you first open > it. You'll soon get a feeling for the ratio of spam to useful messages > in these highlighted posts. My impressions were that this ratio varied > quite a bit from newsgroup to newsgroup; could change quite a bit from > day to day; and overall was far from fully spam, so that just killing > all GG posts was a fairly blunt approach. This may seem a little selfish, but instead of doing the highlighting thing mentioned above I allow those who don't filter out all google groups posts to do quality control for me. Thus in the unlikely event that there really is a useful or interesting post from google groups then there is a good chance that someone who doesn't filter out those groups will respond to it. So I will see the response and so be able to look at the original google group post. Of course this strategy won't work if *everyone* filters out google groups so I hope some of you will continue to leave them unfiltered! :-) Kit
From: Warren Oates on 22 Apr 2008 07:26 In article <nobody-047D78.19330821042008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com>, John Rethorst <nobody(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > Some authentic, quality posts may be gone too; Nope. -- W. Oates
From: Henry Sibley on 22 Apr 2008 07:37
In article <nobody-047D78.19330821042008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com>, John Rethorst <nobody(a)nowhere.net> wrote: > But the spam was getting to me. So I followed its instructions > and added a filter to Newswatcher: Kill if Message-ID contains > �googlegroups.com�. > > Presto. The spam is gone. EXCELLENT Thanks! Hank (Now, if we could get MT-Newswatcher updated for this Giganews change - no XHDR support....) |