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From: Joe Kotroczo on 19 Jul 2008 10:50
On 19/07/08 14:21, in article 4881DC44.78DFE5F9(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore"
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

(...)
>>>
>>> I didn't know that. What style and construction of boat ?
>>
>> it is a Tjalk type, 22 meters long, traditional and under sail.
>> could do with some TLC, as it reached the age of 100 last month.
>> It is about the first ship you'll see when leaving central station
>> Amsterdam east bound, it is on over a million photograps i presume.
(...)
>
> At 22m is it like a British 'narrow (canal) boat' ? I've handled one or two
> of those.

A tjalk is a flat-bottom sailing ship with leeboards. Usually gaff rigged.
Whereas narrow-boats where drawn by horses.

--
Joe Kotroczo kotroczo(a)mac.com

From: Marc Amsterdam on 19 Jul 2008 13:10
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:50:11 +0200, Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo(a)mac.com>
wrote:

>On 19/07/08 14:21, in article 4881DC44.78DFE5F9(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore"
><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>(...)
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know that. What style and construction of boat ?
>>>
>>> it is a Tjalk type, 22 meters long, traditional and under sail.
>>> could do with some TLC, as it reached the age of 100 last month.
>>> It is about the first ship you'll see when leaving central station
>>> Amsterdam east bound, it is on over a million photograps i presume.


>(...)

it is true 'm afraid... whenever pleople take a canal trip or go to
the library, com from the central station or go to the museum... the
first boat they see is mine. sometimes just feel like a popstar in a
rock concert when 3 or 4 canal boats filled with japanese sail by.
Its on postcards as well


>>
>> At 22m is it like a British 'narrow (canal) boat' ? I've handled one or two
>> of those.
>
>A tjalk is a flat-bottom sailing ship with leeboards. Usually gaff rigged.

haha I always tell tourist when they ask about the lee boards that
they are in fact wings ( basically the same princeple) How else would
the Flying Dutchman be airborn :-)

Anyway Joe drop me a line when you'r in Amsterdam, il buy you (x)*
beer!


* insert number


Cheers

Marc


From: Eeyore on 19 Jul 2008 15:05


Joe Kotroczo wrote:

> "Eeyore" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I didn't know that. What style and construction of boat ?
> >>
> >> it is a Tjalk type, 22 meters long, traditional and under sail.
> >> could do with some TLC, as it reached the age of 100 last month.
> >> It is about the first ship you'll see when leaving central station
> >> Amsterdam east bound, it is on over a million photograps i presume.
> >
> > At 22m is it like a British 'narrow (canal) boat' ? I've handled one or two
> > of those.
>
> A tjalk is a flat-bottom

Similar to a 'narrow boat'.


> sailing ship with leeboards. Usually gaff rigged.

Not familiar with that term. Will google.


> Whereas narrow-boats where drawn by horses.

Or propelled by diesels now. Narrow boats also do not have sails. Bad for going
through tunnels !

What sort of beam (width) does your boat have ?

Graham

From: Sean Conolly on 19 Jul 2008 16:43
"Marc Amsterdam" <reply(a)newsgroup.only> wrote in message
news:5s9384p9745k7q3ksotu19p0aev1fsf213(a)4ax.com...
> hmm, as said i live on my boat and ive seen a 12 ton rope snap like a
> sowing tread on just 125 square metres of sail... exiting!!
> How much of those water achors would you need you think.......

"Just" 125 square meters? That's a big sail, friend. Certainly big enough to
lay the vessel on it's side.

I used to live on sailboat a long time ago, just a wee thing - maybe 7
meters. Sailed it every day, anchored out every night, even sailed it
through a crowded marina with a dead motor once, including a three point
turn! Never been healthier, happier, or more cramped since then.

Sean


From: Eeyore on 20 Jul 2008 04:12


Joe Kotroczo wrote:

> "Eeyore"
> >
> >>>> I think I need a change in scenery... ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Anywhere in mind ?
> >>
> >> I've got quite a number of places in mind... But in the end it comes down to
> >> where I can make a living.
> >
> > Naturally. But has anywhere presented itself as a possible opportunity ?
>
> One definite maybe so far.
>
> Why, are you hiring?

I wish ..... Although ...... it would be R&D though.


Graham

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